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Discussion in '348/355' started by Robb, May 19, 2015.

  1. Homeboz

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    PJ shares his perspective on the recent exotic car market (bubble?). I thought to share with the crew since he mentions the F355 in his analysis.

    Spoiler alert (for those who don't want to watch): He doesn't believe prices will go back down on our beloved F355.
     
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  3. carnutdallas

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    Well if $69k with 93k miles is the new bottom, I did fantastic! But these cars will have life after 100k miles...


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    I don’t know if there is a bubble but I’m now starting to see again a lot of classics TR for instance with people asking what they believe are new prices (based on BAT) and the cars are sitting instead of being driven! Sad!


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    I would say so, you bought an 18 year old Ferrari for under 50k and moved on to buying a cheaper car. Could you have bought a gated 360 spider in 2018 for under 50k?

    Not saying you still can't get a great car for under 60k (or even much less), just that you will lose buying power as the cost of things increase and your self imposed limit remains the same.
     
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    Early cylinder heads? What’s the difference?


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    Cam cover bolt pattern is one.
    Other than that No idea.
     
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  12. johnk...

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    You're talking value of money. I'm talking power to buy. At $60k I have the power to buy what I want. I looked at a gated 360 before I bought the Cayman. Wouldn't want one, at $60k or any other price, or a 430, 458, 488, F8..... To big and no use for more than 400 HP. Ferrari simply hasn't made a car since the 355 that I have any desire to own. The only other Ferrais that interest me are the 288 GTO (could have bought one in '85 for $80k but didn't 'cause I wanted a car I could drive), 250 GT California Spider, and the 1957 250 TR. Not exactly street cars that you would use for weekend drives, nor that I can afford.


    The Porsche may have been cheaper that a 360 in 2018, but it's a better car than a 308, 355, 0r 360 in every way: newer, more modern, more reliable..... Next car I buy will could be another (3rd) Miata or an E30 325is (2nd), maybe a preowned M2, M3 or M4, Z3, Z3M, Z4, Z4M, cars that a just fun to drive. All under $60k. Life's too short to taste only Chianti. How about a little cabernet sauvignon or a little Pinot noir. :D
     
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    I say buying power and you correct that to power to buy? Ehhh o_O

    If newer, more modern, more reliable are your only criteria a 2021 Kia should be looking pretty nice in comparison to that old outdated Cayman :)
     
  14. tres55

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    Kia Stinger with a tune will walk all those cars including the 355 so I think it's a no brainer John. :) Time for an "upgrade".
     
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    I’m starting to come across some odd differences between my early 95’s. One being a June build and the other being an October build. Both built in 94.

    I might start a thread on it if I can find the time. One might even have a metal plenum :eek:.
     
  16. FourthAlfa

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    I'm also compiling a list of early 95 differences, and there are quite a few. Most difference are inconsequential to be honest (sand cast vs. die cast etc), but the cylinder heads are quite intriguing. It isn't just the bolt pattern of the spark plug cover - the diameter of the sparkplug well is smaller on the early heads (indicating more significant geometrical differences where it matters). The intriguing part is the number of people who claim the early ones made more power. I've got no hard data here, so don't want to "propagate a myth", I'm just curious enough to investigate further.
    Regarding the metal plenums, as far as I can tell they seem to be linked to UK deliveries, as odd as that may be.
     
  17. GatedF355GTB

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    What's considered early? The most obvious difference between my Sept 94 and March 95 cars is a lack of that glovebox thingy between the seats on the earlier car.
     
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    Up to Engine #38150 which I guess was some time around October 1994 build date.
     
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    I personally think the cutoff date for differences between early builds is September 94. Then I would assume after Dec 94 you start seeing single fuel pumps (later builds).
     
  20. ShineKen

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    Braden worked on a U.S car that had metal plenums. Perhaps you should start a thread and I’ll chime in here and there with my finds :).
     
  21. GatedF355GTB

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    FWIW, My March 95 car has dual fuel pumps and filters.
     
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  22. ShineKen

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    Good info :).
     
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    I'm interested in the differences as well. I've not dyno tested a later 95 but I'm very happy with the performance of my Oct 94 build car.

    Also I bought a 5.2 cylinder head to compare to mine when I have it apart. I'll measure the ports and also CC volume of them along with the combustion chambers.
     
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  24. ShineKen

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    Just off the top of my head, so far .. differences between my early builds. I’ll try to keep it short since this is the market thread.

    Front turn signal bulbs are not compatible.

    Undertray design is different (1 piece center vs 2 pieces). Front bumper side undertrays are compressed fiberglass vs plastic on the other.

    June build car has horrendous sticky issues. Far stickier than Oct build.

    Front tool box strap has buckle location/positioning different. I have 2 different toolboxes. One tall, one short, but that might not be related to build dates.
     
  25. johnk...

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    Let me change the words from power to buy to ability to buy.
     
  26. johnk...

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    Dual fuel pump vs single fuel pump. Different secondary air pumps.
     
  27. INTMD8

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    Yes, ability to buy less car for the same money. Aka buying power.

    Not sure why you disagree unless you think inflation isn't real.
     
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