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Discussion in 'FF/GTC4Lusso/F12/812S' started by 500drvr, Aug 28, 2019.
Miller in CT had a white one with stripe asking $995, seems to be sold the other day
Pista is probably the best result of a modified PF design for Manzoni. Interestingly I liked it (front end treatment pleasant to me) but my wife was not as impressed. The F12TdF so much better a looker than Pista or especially 812sf but I am partial to the platform and the drive train.
I personally like the interior. A user here on fchat, Camlet1 I believe, specced his TDF in Argento with the same color interior. I think it’s classy and a breath of fresh air.
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You’ll be right eventually, just like you’ll be right if you predicted a boom/bull market after that
Wowww ... is this the blue interior? I like it...go for it!
So $7xxk....hard to believe these were asking $1.3 not too long ago....near half mil drop? Has the market shifted this much?
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My understanding is these cars move around 800’s. CGT’s move in 700’s. LaFerrari at 2.7, new FGT 800-950.
Just sold my CGT in the 6’s but mine has 9600 miles. I will get another one in the future.
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I am not a stick driver, but have some interest in CGT. But think I would rather have TDF. Thoughts? (You know I prioritize loud cars!)
Wow what a tough choice!
I am partial to the CGT because it is such an iconic car with automotive history...LeMans engine, over 70 patents, best sounding NAV10 on earth (possibly of all time). Never to be built in the same manner ever again.
TDF amazing and I have not driven one but would like to hear comparisons from someone that has driven both. I suspect TDF is easier to drive but both must be respected with the power. The CGT is a true racecar and scary to push hard. But SO rewarding!
Tough call but I am biased towards CGT.
I follow the CGT market and it has held much stronger than the TDF. As you say, good CGT’s low miles fetch 7-800k currently, which is not a huge drop at all from peak couple years ago, whereas TDF 1.3 down to 800k scares me.
Btw, I’d Love a TDF, but my eyes are set on a different goal at the moment.
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Thank you. I welcome more insights.
I'd pursue an F40 as well!
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ttforcefed was not a fan of his tdF compared to a CGT. Beyond a similar price there is little in common between the two cars and one is TWELVE years older...
This one is not a keeper at all. On to the next.
Not even a fair debate really… Analoug over video games every day
My wife prefers the F12 so not surprising. They have a different set of requirements such as comfort & carpeting.
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wow, and is there a 10% cost on both ends too?
These were going for over 900 just a year ago - no?
thats with the buyers premium. yes even higher for a clean spec.
sold for 660K w/o premium.
Which I guess makes $600k for the seller. If the seller was the first owner, did he even break even vs purchase price including taxes?
Yours was a perfectly timed exit!
a maxed out non tailor made and non special paint was a hair above 600K. not sure on this one - i didnt check to see if the MSRP was listed.
yes i'm glad i got rid of mine when i did....that car shld never have traded near f40 levels....over medium to long term markets are efficient.
I bowed out at $660k today. With premium etc still too much.
Except you can’t ignore the premium.
Is the car market value what the seller received or what the buyer paid to procure it?
I would argue that the cars market value is measured by what a buyer is prepared to pay
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This can’t be good for 599 GTO prices can it? There’s an overlap at sub 600K...
Price before taxes is the only number that matters.
The prices of both have come down, but the tdf premium over 599GTO was way out of line and has subsequently narrowed sharply. In the long run (once the new-car blip is gone) no reason why GTO and tdf shouldn't trade pretty close to each other,