Hello guys. I am speccing an F12 and would like opinions of what not to get. What I have so far. Color: Rosso Berlinetta on Nero leather with red stitching LOGO - shields CALB - black calipers EMR1 RPMY - yellow tach DATR - carbon dashboard trim CIDL - carbon steering wheel + led CITP - carbon cup holder CILR - carbon center console CEXS - carbon door sill exterior CISK - carbon door sill interior CEXD - carbon rear diffuser FCWS - carbon front spoiler CEXF - carbon headlights CELF - carbon rear foglight CIRZ - carbon luggage rack UALZ - alcantara apillars and ceiling ALIH - stitching for alcantara in red SHF5 - parcel shelf in alcantara red stitch ALBC - boot in alcantara SHFA - cockpit walls in alcantara RSCH - race seats in large STC1 - red stitch EMPH - stitched horses on seats PAC1 - rear view cam MIR2 - mirror package AFS1 - adaptive headlights PRG1 - privacy darkened rear window ELEV - front lift Park Sensors, GPS, Bluetooth come standard PRG1 - window darkened, but it is kind of pricey. Is this just a tint or is it something special? The dealer recommended it on the F12. Not sure on the carbon luggage rack. I'm not really sure what wheels to get, the white standards or the upgrades(BBS FI i think)? Are they all forged?
I would go with upgraded wheels. They fit the car so well IMO. I would also change the caliper color as black is my least favorite. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Looks like a good spec. Rosso B/Nero is a nice choice. The BBS wheels are nice, but don't fit the F12. I don't know whether or not the standerd wheels are forged - ask your dealer. If you want forged wheels, why not go with Ferrari wheels, they look very much like the BBS F1. I really like the design of the standerd F12 wheels. On a red car, get silver wheels. But then again, I don't like dark wheels. Why "hide" those beauties? Not a fan of the tinted windows. You can get films that will keep out the heat and UV lights but not tint, if that's your concern. Ask your dealer exactly how it's done. Good luck with it.
Agreed the standard ferrari wheels look decent. The upgrades they offer from the factory are BBS fi i believe but could be mistaken. http://www.topgear.com.pl/sites/www.topgear.com.pl/files/intext/2013/01/ferrarif12berlinettatopgear.jpg Standard
I don't think the optional wheels are the BBS FI but rather they are a similar look. Not sure if they are from BBS, but I think they are forged. The standard wheels look great but are cast and I think they are heavier. I would base this decision more on what you prefer looks wise. With your spec- very nice btw- I would definitely keep the black calipers- it better suits the darker red exterior. Not really a fan of yellow calipers on a red car and I don't love silver calipers- those probably would work too if you want something brighter- but that will also depend on your wheel choice. The privacy windows are factory tinted glass on the 3 rear windows (two small side ones and your big rear window). I can see it both ways if you plan to get your windows tinted because on one hand you'd have to match that tint level on the other windows, on the other hand I hear from installers that the rear window is tricky to do a good job on. If I wanted tinted windows, I'd get the factory privacy windows. I love a yellow tach, but on this latest generation of cars I think black tach is the way to go because the background of the tach matches the background of the two LCD screens that flank it. I also hear yellow and red don't light up as well at night. Not sure about white. With your color spec I wouldn't do a white tach. My final reaction is I see lots of expensive CF options but no hifi. Maybe its not your thing but I think when you go to sell it might be something that causes a buyer to look elsewhere. It would in my case.
Are you sure about the standard wheels being cast? Can't believe a car of this caliber wouldn't come with forged. Is the hifi really a deal breaker vs the stock audio? It's kind of expensive 3700 euros for probably a 1k kit.
Just because wheels are cast, does not mean they are cheap or bad. I'll take a good cast wheel over a mediocre forged wheel any day. I doubt the BBS are the same as the F12 wheels. Checking on the BBS website, they sure don't come in a size that works for the F12. Agree on staying away from the yellow calipers. It will look like a Ronald McDonald car with the Red/Yellow, and to me, they look like a different yellow than the shields. For the carfi upgrade. Some like it, I think both are not very good. I have been an audio buff for years, so I might be chronically damaged as to expect too much For 3700 you can get quite a bit of audio kit, if you can find a good installer. Just a thought.
Ok sticking with standard wheels in white. Adding heat insulating windshield. Now unsure about the rear privacy tint or whatever it is. It's 2700 euros. Would look kind of strange having half the car tinted while the front and side windows aren't?
White? Don't you mean silver? What you said about half the car not being tinted, is exactly why I don't like it. But that's me, others think it's the only way to go.
These http://preview.netcarshow.com/Ferrari-F12berlinetta-2013-800-02.jpg http://image.autos.terra.mx/f/53983235+w618/2014-Ferrari-F12-Berlinetta-three-quarters-in-motion-side-view.jpg http://blogs-images.forbes.com/tamarawarren/files/2012/08/IMG_3377.jpg There is also one more asthetic option Im not sure about. The side mirrors have an option for a black trim or full body color. This one is without the black http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/exotic/1309_2014_ferrari_f12_berlinetta_exclusive_first_test/53809592+w644/2014-ferrari-f12-berlinetta-front-three-quarters.jpg
those wheels will look great with rosso berlinetta. personally,i hate the tinted windows-ruins the shape for me... also agree with black calipers but many would go red or yellow...decisions!decisions!
I'm pretty sure the standard wheels are cast. I don't think you can make the shapes they are using for the standard wheels using the forging process. This is also what they do on other models like the 458- standard is cast, optional is forged. And I agree, I'd take a great cast wheel > mediocre forged wheel. I wouldn't worry about the weight savings / strength of the wheel here as the F12 isn't exactly a light weight car. I think the wheel decision comes down more to which look you prefer. As to audio, think of it like this: here is a loaded up car and its missing the hi-fi audio. At least it doesn't make sense to me. Also there is another thread where the person is writing the stock radio in the F12 is not to his liking and he wishes he got the upgraded hi-fi. My final thought on this is I agree with you that Ferrari is probably making a handsome profit on the hi-fi upgrade. It probably costs them something like you say. But if you tried to get the same or better results you would likely be spending 2-3x as much as they are charging, and you would not achieve the same integration. So from that stand point the price they are charging doesn't seem so crazy. Just sharing my point of view. Your car will be magnificent either way. As to the mirrors, if you are doing the carbon (or just dark color) exterior sills , I think getting the black bottom to the mirrors will look good and take away some of the visual heft of the mirror.
I was told (by my dealer) that the standard wheels are cast and heavier than the optional forged wheels which is what I ordered on my car in the dark color .. they also offer a diamond finish and maybe a black finish.. I really like your specs love all the exterior carbon fiber should look great.. have you thought about the carbon engine compartment and air boxes ... Little pricey but just a thought. with all your carbon.. best of luck
I'm getting mine tinted all round after delivery, but only to 35%. Darkens it enough to be noticeable, but not so much you attract much attention by the law. And way cheaper too...
The irony is that, at resale, the upgraded audio is likely to most appeal to the least musically sophisticated buyers -- because folks who are really into music know that even at its best, car audio just doesn't get terribly good. You do reach, even more quickly than in home audio, a point of diminishing returns. I will readily defer to others on how the lack of a premium audio system will affect resale value of a Ferrari, because I realize I'm a luddite: I get queasy when I see a pic from the rear seat of an FF showing those headrest video monitors!
It all depends upon what is out there for resale. Certain options such as upgraded wheels, sport exhaust, premium hi fi are prevalent. Others such as carbon fiber everything are not, yet the carbon fiber steering wheel seems a must have option when it comes to resale. If resale is a concern, go look at pre owned examples (starting to see some preowned F12s out there now) and see what specs are most common. End of the day, these cars sell, so if it means that it will take longer or sell for marginally less without some key options, you would have to weigh that against your desires. But for my money,if I'm buying new and going through that effort, I would get exactly what I want and wouldn't care much about resale. If you are buying a garage queen and will drive it 1000 miles and then sell it, then it's a different story. Get what makes you feel good and then drive the snot out of it! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
jumping in late your spec is quite complete....at this point, the incremental cost of the upgraded stereo is tiny (relatively speaking) If you want tinted windows, I'd pay for the factory version...while aftermarket films can be really good, the OEM dark tints always look great. Re the CEXS sill - are you leaving them clear/visible carbon or painting? If painting I'd recommend skipping the option, save the $$. Those savings would finance a top-notch 3M installation (which I would do locally, aftermarket). You can carbon-wrap the lower sill if you like the look (and it's easy to repair, which you will need to do) FWIW, all that interior carbon will make it very DARK. The red stitch will help, maybe consider colored seat belts. In our F12, we did full leather nero, red stitch, some carbon, but the door handles remain silver...so we left the bridge in silver to match..and red belts. Pick what you like - my wife was the interior designer. Last, I am no audiophile....some will say "just listen to the engine", which is fine and I do often. However, I do like music (or the news) on the radio - however, neither the F12, or FF, of 458, and especially the Speciale have the acoustics to really take advantage of a decent audio system.
Look at MP3 and Sat Radio. They all sound pretty poor compared to a great home rig. Yet they are hugely popular. But most people don't have a great home rig- and thus don't know nor do they care. I agree cars are not for really high end audio. But neither will it be very enjoyable if the audio system produces a flat/ lifeless sound. What you want in a car like the F12 is a sound system that gives you dynamic music. I think the goal is just getting something pleasing to listen to for longer journeys. It is a GT after all. I'd be the first one to check the radio delete on a Speciale type car if the radio and its associated speakers and amps added measurable weight.