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    Perhaps at his last race? Ricardo only drove twice for Ferrari in 62.
     
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    Relaxed atmosphere in the paddock in those days.
     
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    Pretty sure it's Clark.

    Besides, that's a Lotus 25 and not a BT3.
     
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    The fellow standing is Rob Walker.
     
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    Rear tires look a little too wide for 1963!
    Not Lotus, Lotus 25 had inboard front springs and dampers.
     
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    Yea, it's 'Black Jack' in his Tasman spec Brabham Bt-23a at Warwick Farm, 1967

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    Ah.....okay.
     
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    Tiny compared to what they run today.

    Maybe the 2026 rules should mandate a 90" wheelbase.
     
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    Been watching old races every night
    So much to be seen
    Don't miss new races yet
    Although I need to brush up on my German to keep up with the announcers
     
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    WOW.....talk about horsepower and air.


    ’75, at Nürburgring, Hesketh privately tested its secret 308B-TT F1 car - TT for twin turbo. On full boost the experimental engine produced 1800bhp, giving a top speed of 250mph (402km/h). Driver James Hunt said “It’s frightfully quick but the jumps are scary.”

    "Flugplatz" ???


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    Carlo Chitti in dark suit talking to Richie Ginther in the car, Romolo Tavoni with hat at the back, Phil Hill and Enzo Ferrari leaning on a 250GTE ?
    That must be 1961, perhaps at the Modena track.
     
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    LOL I had to do a double take then remember what day it is :p

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    That would be a simple and sure way to control aero developement, and very easy to enforce too.
     
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    First things I noticed....'Not Jim's helmet; 'not Lotus badge on nose; and even being black and white photo, the stripe didn't look yellow, 'more like gold..... ;)
     
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    You know me....logical I must be.....how would a 90" wheelbase "control" aero development? 'Distance between front and rear axles have naught to do with controlling aero......nor would track..... :confused:
     
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    It's very simple, a shorter wheelbase would forcibly bring a shorter car, with less overhangs, front and rear.
    If not, you risk to induce too much pitch and make the car instable.
    Less overhangs would bring less front and rear wings, and reduce downforce.

    That's the path the ACO has used to reduce speeds in endurance.
     
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    Just make ALL areo aids banned! better racing!
     
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    The above is all well and good. I guess I needed to be a bit more concise in my question regarding "That would be a simple and sure way to control aero developement, and very easy to enforce too."

    How would a shorter wheelbase "be a simple and sure way to control aero development, and very easy to enforce too."
    Engineers are constantly developing aerodynamics and downforce...especially when some of the parameters are diminished and they want to get to get back what's been lost. As of this tme, I know not of "mind control".

    ;)

    First, not "better racing", actually, just a batter "show".
    The only way to "Just make ALL areo aids banned!" is to go the route of IndyCar. Spec racers. Alas, that would be the end of F1.
    Why not surrender F1 and simply follow IndyCar for that needed adrenaline rush?
    Or, just view fictional action movies.....which is all that spec racing is......

    :)
     
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    Probably I didn't explain myself correctly.
    Any moving vehicle is submited to 3 movements; pitch, roll and yaw.
    On a car, reducing the wheelbase affects the pitch, reducing the track affects the roll, moving the weight affects the yaw.
    A car with longer wheelbase will be less sensitive to pitch provoked by loads on its extremities than one with a short wheelbase.
    That's even noteceable on road cars.
    That's why F1 cars have now very long wheelbase, to allow massive loads on the wings (front and rear) to get more downforce.
    A longer wheelbase also provides bigger undertray, diffuser, etc...
    Therefore if a shorter wheelbase was mandated, the designers would be restricted in the aero they could develop around it.
    The design would have to take into consideration the increased pitch and the cars have less downforce as a result.
     
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    Is anyone else here watching Netflix’ “A life of speed” the JM Fangio story?

    If not, it is worth a look
     
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    Or, if you prefer, Jean-Pierre Sarti...
     

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