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  1. Condor Man

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    Hey Guys, I have just ordered a 488GTB and wanted to know if it is possible to have a Euro Delivery?

    If so, what is the best way to have the vehicle insured?

    I tried several times from Australia to have a Euro Delivery and based on their taxes they would not allow this.

    Now that I live in the US I am sure that many guys have done this before.

    Thanks and I look forward to some help and advice.

    May the Horse be with you....
     
  2. Illogical

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    When you say Euro Delivery, do you mean having the car delivered to a port in Europe for immediate export, avoiding the national sales tax?

    I run a motorsport and tuning parts distribution company in Germany so being sales tax registered there may be a way I can help you to get the car purchased and then exported at net price - I have imported cars from Japan and LA over the years (I always used Bremerhaven) and we generally dealt with Karl Geuther GmbH or K-Line. I always did roll-on roll-off but container is also possible (how they stack cars in containers is scary though!). They offer insurance as part of the shipping cost, I believe there are extra options for particularly delicate or expensive goods.

    If you know any USAF or other forces stationed in Europe, it might be worth asking them. I believe they can have their personal vehicles shipped for free once a year or so...could be worth investigating. Forces can also use a form to purchase without sales tax here in Germany.

    Anyway if I can help further just drop me a message.
     
  3. greyboxer

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    I think Euro delivery means driving the car in Europe for a few months like MB/BMW etc before car gets shipped to US - pretty sure this has never been offered as there are not enough cars to justify the department it would need - given the hassle a UK guy just had about a factory delivery (see thread in General) do not hold your breath
     
  4. Illogical

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    OK I see - if that was the plan then having a tax registered company in the country you wanted to purchase the car and drive it in would help. That company would need to reclaim the sales tax and also arrange the export for you. Certainly possible for a company who regularly imports or exports goods. Of course you also need to road register, insure and tax the car so would need to be registered in the country yourself or use the company arranging the export to register the vehicle as a company car. Obviusly it's quite a lot of paperwork but no reason it cannot be done.
     
  5. Condor Man

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    Thanks for the replies. Porsche are big on this, I wasn't sure if Ferrari did this.

    When I bought My F12 in Germany I had a red plate on it for 30 days whilst I drove it back to the UK.

    I assume that the same could happen with a brand new car from the factory??
     
  6. 100badboy100

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    Hi Condor Man

    I'm still a little confused as to what you are actually looking to do here......

    Yes it is possible to collect your car from the factory. I'm just in the process of getting this sorted out, and it has been a bit of a struggle getting it sorted but it looks like the dealer has now sorted it and I will be collecting my new 488GTB from the factory in the next couple of weeks and driving it home to the UK.

    It's not clear where you are based or if you have multiple bases.

    If the car is to stay in Europe for a while after purchase, I suggest purchase from a European dealer and ask them for factory collection. Then if you want to export it at some point then do that as a separate piece of work.

    I know some customers from India have also ordered a car for factory collection - god knows how they got the thing home though.....

    In the welcome pack it does give some information on factory collection towards the back.

    My experience has been interesting as I was originally told that yep all ok it had been requested then I was told that factory couldn't accommodate me for collection once it got to status 20 ....!!!!! I then expressed my concern and upset at this last minute change by them and hey presto all sorted.....well I say that....wait until you see me post some pics driving the thing out the gate at Maranello!!!

    Regards

    Michael
     
  7. LCW

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    wouldn't your dealer be able to answer this for you?
     
  8. Illogical

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    Where is the final destination of the car? If it's an EU country then you can use temporary plates in the country you purchased from or theoretically any other EU country with a temporary plate system. But you will be paying sales tax in the country of purchase and there's no claiming that back if the car needs to leave the Eurozone, unless the purchaser is a registered company and it's sold net as an export sale. That company would claim back the local sales tax after purchase or purchase net by using their EU sales tax code if they were buying from a different EU country to where they are registered.

    I hope that helps a little!
     
  9. Condor Man

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    Thanks Michael, sorry to confuse you.

    I used to live in Australia and moved to LA this year.

    The new car I have ordered is from Beverly Hills and I would like to collect it from the factory take it on a drive for 1 month through Europe and then I would have it shipped to the US.

    The most important part is getting the car insured for the month. The only insurance I could get for my F12 was having it registered in the UK where it lived.

    I hope that this is not too confusing.

    May the Horse be with you....
     
  10. Condor Man

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    I will ask this question.

    May the Horse be with you....
     
  11. Condor Man

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    Michael,

    I agree there is something very special in driving your own Ferrari at Maranello.

    I have done this twice in my 550 and F12. Image Unavailable, Please Login



    May the Horse be with you....
     
  12. Illogical

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    This would probably be very difficult to arrange - you have purchased a car in your state and already paid sales tax. Ferrari factory are going to need to prove that they have exported your car to Ferrari USA, Ferrari USA are going to have to own that import with all the paperwork and duty involved. They need to sell that car to your dealer, who sold it to you.

    I doubt very much Ferrari factory will let a car leave if it's earmarked for export - how can they know that the car will actually leave Italy if it's allowed out of the factory?

    The only way I can see of arranging something like this is to purchase the car in Europe, pay the Italian (or wherever) sales tax and then export the car yourself to USA. You will have to pay sales tax and duty on that import though. If you wanted to claim that sales tax back in Europe, you would need a tax registered company involved.

    One theoretical is that you get to drive your car around the tax-free zone at the port before it gets loaded - but what's the point in that?
     
  13. Condor Man

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    It does sound very difficult and based on this I would rather not bother.

    I will buy another Car in Europe next year and use that for 2 years of touring.

    May the Horse be with you....
     
  14. 100badboy100

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    Insurance should be straightforward if the car is registered in Europe. Just use a European insurance comparison site to get a policy and cancel it when you are finished.

    If the car is being registered in the USA then that may be tricky but I'm sure a USA broker will write a bespoke policy for you ? Similar to all those that ship there cars to Europe for celebratory events and rallies etc...

    Regards

    Michael
     
  15. 100badboy100

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    Wow twice! I'm very envious!

    I hope to share my experience soon.

    Regards

    Michael
     
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  16. Condor Man

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    The companies want a home address which makes the whole situation a pain.

    You are right about a broker doing the deal.... it just depends on the cost.

    May the Horse be with you....
     
  17. Condor Man

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    Thank you..... enjoy! It is a very special feeling as is the Ferrari tour which I hope that you do too.

    May the Horse be with you....
     
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  19. 100badboy100

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    I'm sure having a uk/ European address for paperwork
    nice!!!!!
     
  20. Condor Man

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    So coincidentally, I walked into to BH Porsche yesterday to discuss ordering a GT3 and they were having a presentation on Porsche Euro Delivery and how to do it for residents from the US.

    Unfortunately I missed the details and I will follow up with the manager for more details.

    May the Horse be with you....
     

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