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Enzo's signature - not in the famous purple ink

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  1. thepinkumbrella

    thepinkumbrella F1 Veteran

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    #1 thepinkumbrella, Jun 26, 2010
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    Hi all,

    Below are a couple of images from my copy of the English text version of Le Mie Gioie Terribili, The Enzo Ferrari Memoires 'My Terrible Joys' printed in 1965.

    It carries the signature of Enzo Ferrari on the inside page date 10/10/79 but it is not written in the famous purple ink.
    This signature had been confirmed authentic by the Motoring Memorabilia specialist at Brooks Auctioneers (when they were still Brooks) in the mid 1990s, but I have never seen an Enzo signature in anything other than the purple ink.

    Has anyone seen or possess a signature like this?
    Was the purple ink a trademark through out his whole life, I'm sure it is daft to assume that everything Enzo ever wrote was in purple ink?
    Am I doubting the authenticity based up on this?

    It is also signed by Stirling Moss who wrote the foreword for the book.

    Any comments greatly appreciated.

    Paul
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  2. AlexB

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    Hello Paul,

    Thank you for sharing, I have been collecting autographs of famous drivers for many years and have the true legends, Ascari, Farina, Hawthorn, Clark etc.

    Having studied this signature I have a slight doubt about it. The 'g' in Grazie does not look quite how he use to write. I have however seen some authentic ferrari signatures in black and blue ink, I guess these may of been collected inperson when the pen with purple ink was not at hand.

    People should know that some Enzo Ferrari signatures are actually stamps and these were used sometimes on the factory issued postcards of his different drivers. These often fool people as the effect is quite convincing.

    I have heard a rumour about the purple ink and I do not know if it holds any water. But apparantly it began from his early days when he wrote with an Italian lead pencil that, when licked, became violet in colour. If anyone else can prove or disprove this I would be most interested.

    Alex
     
  3. jm2

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    In the recently released book "The Ferrari Phenomenon" by Matt Stone & Luca Dal Monti,they make reference to Enzo's use of purple ink on p.40." Enzo Ferrari rarely signed his full name,preferring simply "Ferrari" as his autograph and signature.More often than not,he signed with his own fountain pen-filled not with black,not blue,not even red,but violet ink.Why?He told friend and journalist Gino Rancati:"My father wrote with a copying pencil ( containing a purple lead), because in those days the use of a letter-book was mandatory.My faithfulness to this memory will tell you why i use violet ink".
     
  4. thepinkumbrella

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    Alex,

    Many thanks for your input. Is the suspect 'g' enough to call fake in your honest opinion?
    I respect any comments, there is obviously an element of doubt in my own mind seeing as I created this thread.

    Paul
     
  5. AlexB

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    Hi Paul,
    You are welcome. In my opinion, I am afraid that I think it is fake. I would however be interested to hear other peoples opinions. The Stirling Moss signature is 100% authentic.

    If you would like a professionals opinion you could contact a UACC (universal autograph collectors club) registered dealer. They will be able to give their professional opinion but they like to charge high prices for doing such a task.

    If you have other signatures that you are uncertain about I will take a look for you and give my opinion.

    All the best,

    Alex
     
  6. CollectorMorry

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  7. thepinkumbrella

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    #7 thepinkumbrella, Jun 26, 2010
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    Thanks again, Alex.
    I will certainly continue my research in to this.
    Signed things don't really interest me, although I do have a few bits signed by Chinetti, Piper, Parkes, Swaters and an Enzo postcard, all that I know are genuine.


    With this in mind, there is a fair bit of difference in these two signatures below both from January 1986 (images copyright www.collectorstudio.com)

    Paul
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  8. CollectorMorry

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    True but they still look like each either, whereas yours doesn't really look like either, mostly due to the proximity and sizing of the letters, as well as the strokes used.
     
  9. AlexB

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    Morry is quite right, look how the letters are formed especially 'a' in the two examples and then compare these against your ferrari signature.

    Enzo's signature seems to stay very similar throughout most of his life.

    A Parkes autograph is quite a rareity!

    Alex
     
  10. piloti

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    Hello Paul
    I have the possibility of viewing many Enzo signatures on a daily basis and I must say that there are a number of things about this signature that make it questionable;
    1) the ink colour
    2) the actual signature shape
    3) the single word 'grazie'. Usually there is no comment or something longer, such as "Ringraziemento (IIRC - spelling may be wrong) e saluti"
    4) date usually below the signature
    Just my opinion
    Nathan
     
  11. AlexB

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    Hi Nathan,
    I have just tried accessing your site with no luck. Do you still run it? It sounds like you have some rarities.

    Thanks,
    Alex
     
  12. piloti

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    Hi Alex
    Thanks for trying to access my site. I regret that it is down at the moment until my 'web manager' (is that the title?) gets it sorted. Hopefully not too long. Thanks
    Nathan
     

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