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  1. F140C

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    Love that deep growl too, especially while cruising at low rpms, and the boomy sound it makes when shifting.
     
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  2. Gh21631

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    Unless you have heard these cars live in person then you really dont know how they actually sound. The YT videos dont do them any justice. The Pista sounds just fine and I am sure if you want more there will be an aftermarket exhaust to help you out. We aren't going to get too many NA cars in the future so either buy an older car or get accustomed to it.
     
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  3. REALZEUS

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    #53 REALZEUS, Apr 26, 2019
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    Ferrari's Chief Technical Officer, Leiters, confirms that the F8 has the exact same engine as the Pista. Most importantly? The N/A V12 is here to stay!!!:


    ‘The F8 is a significant step forward,’ says Leiters. ‘The heart of the new car is the new 710bhp engine, the same as the 488 Pista’s; the lighter engine internals, the titanium conrods – everything. This is definitely the most important part of the Tributo.’

    Together with the 50bhp power increase, the Pista-derived V8 brings with it an 18kg weight saving (the F8’s overall weight is down 40kg versus the 488, to 1330kg dry): inconel exhaust manifolds cut 9.7kg, the conrods 1.7kg and the lightened flywheel and crankshaft 2.7kg. Peak torque is 568lb ft at 3250rpm and, as befits such a race-bred engine, blunder into the rev limiter and you’ll simply hit it, rather than suffer a gradual loss of power on the way to it, as you do in the 488 GTB.

    Leiters: ‘We have a new exhaust system which negates the impact of new emissions tests, and includes a new particulate filter. We also have a membrane just after the turbo compressors and a duct to bring the sound directly to the cabin – it is even more emotional and involving than it is on the 488 GTB.

    ‘This is not the end of our V8 line,’ he says. ‘The turbo V8 will remain an important pillar of our engine range. We are working on a V6 but it won’t replace the V8. Downsizing will be important, and the V6 – combined with hybrid technology at different levels, not always full hybrid – will be important too. But this will not replace the V8. Technically the V8 is difficult to keep alive but we are working on this, and in the mid-term we can maintain three families: V12 naturally-aspirated, V8 turbo and V6 turbo.’


    https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/first-official-pictures/ferrari/f8-tributo/
     
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  4. Steph355au

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    Seems to be slightly conflicting messages coming out of Ferrari. In the latest issue of TOFM the guy in charge of the engine and gearbox states as follows:-

    " Marzio Maresi – engine - says: “To fulfil new emissions and noise regulations, we needed to change the exhaust. That meant changing various engine parts and revalidating the engine, driveability and sound.” The only visible changed parts are the new aluminium intake manifold, and exhaust.
     
  5. REALZEUS

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    Perhaps Maresi meant that they changed non-performance related parts? Leiters specifically said that the lighter internals and the titanium conrods remain.
     
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  6. JTSE30

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    So, it sounds impossible, but if they were able to keep the same engine at the same horsepower (as the Pista) after adding a particulate filter to the exhaust that would be truly amazing. Why? because adding the particulate filters (GPF) essentially adds back pressure and requires more force to push the exhaust out, it should reduce power by at least 5%, unless they increased actual engine power to maintain the same net horsepower which is definitely possible. Hopefully there will be more details on this in the future.
     
  7. REALZEUS

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    They have obviously dealt with the particulate filter issue, one way or the other.
     
  8. sfcarguy

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    I had the exhaust valves pinned open by the dealer on my Speciale. At lower RPM, It improves the throatiness of the sound. On the upper end, the sound becomes higher pitched (more like a TDF or 360CS). Another reason to have this performed is it eliminates the exhaust differences between sport, race, and wet. Being that it is still the stock exhaust, their is no drone.
     
  9. sfcarguy

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    I wonder if the filter will still be on US cars because it isn't required there?
     
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