Electric Ferrari Coming Together

Folks are gonna need G suits so they don't black out, crash and die.

 

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Like Thanos, it’s inevitable!

 

Agreed, I prefer Ferrari being competitive with the bleeding edge. I know many people think they should slow down and worry more about clothes, food, and toys.
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Nobody forces a Ferrari fan to buy the fastest/lastest offering - case in point?

I never judged folks who prefer slower GT cars like California. It's a great car, and I would be proud to own or drive one. It's also fast enough for me. For my own personal Ferraris - I choose vintage.

Just because a car can go 0-60 under 2 seconds, 1/4s under 9, and Nurburgring under 7 - it doesn't mean you're forced to have to hit these numbers. It's there if you want or for the proverbial 'bragging rights.

I know sacrilege, but I've been privy to the latest real sound electrical motors for next-generation cars, I actually like them. But hey, I'm a Science Fiction/Fantasy fan, and I play video games.

Yeah, probably the type of things that are in the minority for the next generation of folks that will buy these cars huh?

 

Agreed, look what staying with "Tradition" did to Harley Davidson....

Recognizing and reacting to market forces didn't mean HD couldn't still offer hawgs...

 

It’s not cool for fast cars to be fast anymore.

 

The fifth-largest franchise in history literally is called "Fast n Furious"

Just behind the things I mentioned earlier, namely Sci-Fi and Fantasy. (Marvel/Star Wars/Harry Potter)

meh, what I do know? Perhaps what the masses want/consume/admire doesn't matter...

Cars and Coffees still seem to give plenty of respect to 'fast cars.'

Maybe this will all change and handbags with Ferrari logos are the future. Anyone going to the "Bags and Coffee?"

 

One would hope they would at least come up with something mind blowingly different and sexy. Sadly that patent drawing doesn't bode well.

The one thing all electric cars have in common is they are visually dull as hell. Doesn't matter how quick they are when they have all the sex appeal of a toaster. Porsche is the best of the bunch but it's still IMO very vanilla. Teslas all look essentially the same.

Let's hope Ferrari can do better.

 

if there's a meme that sums up this post, YOU NAILED IT

 

Trouble is folks..we gotta start adapting to the times. Gas is done. Sorry. Supercars will still be super..but just different. Sometimes change is good.

 

Not really. My kids will have to but not me. At 51 I’ll have the choice to just not buy an EV. I’m sure I’ll always have the option to drive around in a classic gas guzzler if I choose to. Lol, or I’ll be the geezer on the Ducati annoying everyone with straight pipes.

I highly doubt we’ll go to 100% ev’s in the next 20-30 years. If it does eventually happen I’ll be dead by then.

 

I guess it’s uncool for fast cars to be too fast as they probably stress out the slower fast cars. They will need to have “safe” lanes for the slower fast cars to calm down while the faster fast cars whizz by.
Seriously, if you are upset with the new rules being forced down your throats- vote the powers that be out- if you have enough votes to do it. Unfortunately it seems less and less likely that is the case..
the electric juggernaut is here so Ferrari can either step aside, become irrelevant except to those on FerrariChat and die a slow death, or accept the challenge and hopefully thrive with gorgeous to look at and drive EVs that are desirable.
Time will tell,


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What defines a Ferrari more than anything since its creation is its mechanics, with the finesse, the subtlety of the emotions it provides at the level of the 5 senses.
There are two categories of owner at Ferrari, those who love mechanics and who are enthusiasts, and those who love the badge and the social status that the badge confers without worrying about what is under the hood or how which it works.
An electric Ferrari is for the second category of buyer, it is a fact, and it must be said! with respect, but it must be said.
Ferrari therefore capitalizes on the badge and therefore hopes to sell electric **** with great marketing fanfare to this second category. Because you also have to have the lucidity to say that an electric Ferrari is simply ****, and all the explanations of those who think the opposite are only there to justify an act of purchase which will not change reality in any way ... a bit as if Patek were manufacturing a liquid crystal watch, it basically comes down to that and the comparison is evocative .
Enthusiasts, when to them, will look back at an extremely rich history.

 

There is theoretically nothing electric can’t reproduce from an ICE. Even sound is can be made a Coke Zero. Your Patek analogy is spot on, the fact some particular owners prefer complexity for complexities sake is not a unanimously admired trait, especially in the motor world and racing circles. To me at least, artisanship should be limited in the bodywork within reason to function.

 

I’ve driven enough electric cars to know everything, and I mean everything can be reproduced that an ICE does. Feel, sight, sound, hell, even taste and smell if you add an atomizer. The smell of gas just doesn’t make me particular enamored. I like fresh air over the smell of exhaust (outside an F1 race), maybe just me.

which comes down to my biggest complaint…sound. In particular faux. It’s definitely a pet peeve of mine, right up there with fake vents that now are stanadard issue on almost every car..some Ferrari included…(that holy cow was slaughtered when? 348? Probably earlier….)

anybody that doesn’t agree hasn’t driven a Rivian. Or say a Koe, or Evija, or any number of next gen cars that start at 2,000 hp.

Yet, here come the Calvary that says that’s too much. You do you. Too scary, too fast, too extreme? Yet here I thought I was on a Ferrari forum.

 

That is a true statement. When my car partner and I took our C8 to a warehouse district on a Saturday to test the launch control, we were shocked by the gforces that kind of acceleration brings. It was on cool concrete, so our best 0-60 time was 3.6 , not the 2.6 or 2.7 others have gotten on sticky asphalt. We are both 69 years old, and I'm not sure how much quicker I want to experience those g's. The only other time I have had that tunnel vision kind of sensation, was in a roll race in our 2005 Ford GT at an airstrip. At the top of 2nd and 3rd gears, it's shocking how hard it pulled at those kind of speeds.

 

Alright, since we are going down the EV can do everything an ICE car do and more rabbit hole let's take it up a notch.

How about a completely immersive VR "Ferrari"? Why spend my money on a ridiculously overpriced car when I can just strap on a haptic suit, sit in a SIM rig and drive in VR? Ferrari can license virtual cars in the Metaverse so you can experience all of the above points from your home. You can drive the Stelvio Pass or race around the rings of Saturn for all we know. Lol, you could even meet your friends at a Meta Cars and Coffee and check out their virtual rides.

No pollution, no repairs, no hassles at all. Ferrari could shut down the factory line and just have a server farm.

It's no more ludicrous than the idea of the entire planet switching over to EV's IMO. If anything it would be easier and cheaper.

 

Nobody said the entire plant would be switching over to EV's anytime soon. This is about Ferrari jumping into the EV game. You may not like it..that is wonderful. But don't try to talk others out of the experiance either.

They really have no choice in the matter. Every car manufacturer going forward must have an EV or hybrid in thier line up as so far as I have been told.

 

I’m not trying to talk them out of it at all. In fact nothing would please me more if an ICE Ferrari becomes so undesirable that I can pick them up for pennies on the dollar.

Seriously though I’ll wait to see what it looks like. If it’s P3/4 gorgeous I’ll be cheering the loudest even if it runs on unicorn farts.

 

Patent filings are always generically styled, especially when it's not ornamental, but technical. As far as ICE Ferrari becoming undesirable, I would argue the electric age may have the opposite effect. (To my own profit) - yet another reason to welcome with open arms this fangled infernal machine.

 

EVs are not good future...

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/02/18/was-the-felicity-ace-fire-caused-by-electric-vehicle-batteries/

We may never know if an EV started the fire, but even if the EVs didn’t start the fire, they are certainly making it a lot more difficult to extinguish the fire. EV battery fires are chemically comparable to thermite fires, hot enough to melt steel, so there may not be much left to analyse by the time the ship fire finally burns itself out.

This disaster could have real consequences for the EV market, both transporting EVs by sea or land, and consumer desire for a product which is potentially such a severe fire hazard. I would not be surprised if in the future, once insurers understand the hazard, owning an EV could make your home uninsurable, unless you can prove it is parked well away from your house.

At the very least insurers may start demanding strict end of use dates on the batteries. The hazard likely grows as the battery ages, though if the Felicity Ace fire was started by a new battery, you can never say the hazard is zero.

The following video demonstrates how ferocious EV fires can be in a home environment – and this fire is just an electric scooter. Automobile batteries are far larger. How much would be left of your house, how much time would you have to get to safety, if an electric automobile caught fire in a built in garage or car port? EV fires are not constrained by lack of oxygen. The battery itself contains everything necessary to initiate and sustain a deadly, white hot fire which is almost impossible to extinguish.



A fair number of apartment buildings have garages in their lower floors. Imagine a burning Tesla.

I’m imagining if the dreams of a EV in every home ever come true, imagining a fire in an underground garage that is part of the buildings support structure.

Imagine dozens of Teslas and other EV’s parked below a high rise apartment building all burning together. Hot enough to melt both steel and concrete.

https://gcaptain.com/electric-vehicles-and-maritime-transportation-fire-hazards-identified/

 

Always looking for the bad stuff. I suppose driving around at 100mph with 80 liters of highly flammable liquid is much safer.

 

The ideal would be for Ferrari to produce 2 different badges for the ends of the front bonnets. One classic on a yellow WWF background and the other on a green background.
This will correspond to the 2 clienteles who in the end will have nothing in common, and nothing to say to each other.

 

No, not looking, if finds you, and EV fires happen most often when (a) the vehicle is not in motion (b) no one is in the vehicle. And combustion car fires are extinguishable, lithium fires are not extinguishable because they bring their own supply of oxygen, best you can do is cool them down.

Look for more EV bans as time goes on... for example:

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/several-german-cities-halt-use-e-buses-following-series-unresolved-cases-fire

(original story in Germany with photographs)
https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article234310454/Elektrobus-loeste-Grossbrand-aus-Muenchen-zieht-E-Fahrzeuge-aus-dem-Verkehr.html?icid=search.product.onsitesearch

happened in multiple depots in different cities...

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Regarding your comment:

"I suppose driving around at 100mph with 80 liters of highly flammable liquid is much safer."

Yes it is, much much safer than driving about in a 9000 pound vehicle that can go 0-100 in 8.1 seconds and cannot stop itself as quickly...

https://insideevs.com/news/510334/gmc-hummer-ev-weight-acceleration/