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Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by Juice It, Jul 9, 2004.

  1. jimpo1

    jimpo1 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I'm confused, you spent $30k on a car and sold it for $2k? You lost $28k? Or you put $28k into it and sold it for $30k?
     
  2. Smiles

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    Wait! I know this one!

    If the hotel manager charges each man $10, it's a total of $30. Then when he realizes he has overcharged them a total of $5, which he gives to the bellboy. The bellboy pockets $2 for himself, and returns $1 to each man. So each man has paid $9, or $27 total. Then there's the $2 that the bellboy pocketed, for a total of $29. And that's how $30 become $29. Right?
     
  3. Ashman

    Ashman Two Time F1 World Champ
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    So, Matt, THIS is what have you been up to since leaving that accounting job at Enron? ;-)

    John
     
  4. Smiles

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    Hee, hee! ;) That's actually funnier the more you know me: I tend to be an extremely straight shooter, accounting-wise.
     
  5. dogue

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    I am so glad there are a few on here that also appreciate the 4HL. I have been in love with this car for many many years. My dream car is a 330 GT 2+2 (blue + Tan) series I or interim, The would look so nice next to my 308.
     
  6. jsa330

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    Matt:

    Beautiful car! I've read your posts about it on Tom's board, but this is the first time I've seen pics. 330 was a great design overall, no matter what year or number of headlights. But, I am opinionated in favor of the fours, no offense intended to 2 headlight owners.
     
  7. Smiles

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    Thanks, Spook.

    The four headlight cars look better in person, too.

    I bought my car because it was the right one at the right time for the right price. I have a slight preference for Series 2 cars, not just for the looks, but for the 5-speed transmission, pendulum pedals, and air conditioning.

    I think that they're still very underpriced. Or at least they're a great value.

    The rear suspension is so well (if oddly and traditionally Ferrari) designed that I'm not sure that a GTC IRS would handle much better. And I like the sweep of the rear window better, too.

    An aside:
    When I was a pre-teen, riding as a passenger in my father's 308 was the greatest thrill in the world for me. On one sunny day, we were travelling some back roads, and at a four-way-stop intersection we encountered at GTE (or, possibly, a 330 America).

    The occupants waved enthusiastically, and we waved back, somewhat more cooly. After all, we were in the latest and greatest V-8 Ferrari, with gorgeous bodywork, and they were driving a stodgy old, unloved 2+2.

    Now I'm the guy driving the old 2+2. When I see a 355 or a 360, and when I wave, the other drivers are often cool, too. After all, they're driving the latest and greatest V-8 Ferrari, with gorgeous bodywork, and I'm the one driving a stodgy old, unloved 2+2.

    But that newer Ferrari driver doesn't realize (as I didn't realize as a kid in my dad's car) that he's missing out on a lot. For one, his car may sound great (perhaps by the expense of a Tubi exhaust), but it still doesn't sound like a Columbo V-12. He also can't easily work on his own car. There are no points or carbs to adjust, and valve lash is usually a mystery.

    Instead, the driver of a modern Ferrari worries about simpler issues, like what kind of gas to buy, what kind of oil to use, and even how many horsepower he can gain with a K&N air filter. And he worries about cambelts, far too often!

    Meanwhile, I really enjoy my Ferrari. I fix most things myself. If I have a trusted mechanic fix things for me, the costs are reasonable. As a bonus, I enjoy the smells, sounds, and sheer thrills as Enzo himself designed.

    It's amazing to me that a limited production V-12 car should be worth less than many 3X8 cars!

    --Matt
     
  8. jsa330

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    Matt, the newer Ferraris, excepting the 550 Maranello, don't interest me much, and if their drivers have a condescending attitude toward my car, it just exhibits their ignorance about the history of what they're driving. I'm the one in the rare vintage thoroughbred, and they're the ones in the mass production engineering marvels that you can hardly tell from a new Corvette. I think that the body styling on these cars is quite mediocre in comparison to the pre-Daytona era.

    Your'e the one in the classic, the sophisticated guy in the know.
     
  9. Tony Fuisz

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    The other nice thing about a vintage Ferrari is that it always generates a positive response from people, while the same isn't necessarily true when I've driven the latest and greatest 355/360/550/456.
    They want to know what it is, point at the spinners on the wheels, Dad's say to their kids "thats a real ferrari..." etc.
     
  10. kare

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    I get very sad when cars like 330 GT Series I are being called ugly. This kind of behavior reminds me of persons who go to a dinner parties and make loud notes about how "smoked salmon (you may insert your favorite dish here) makes them puke, especially if it is prepared like the one you are eating".

    330 GT Series I is a strong design, very 60's and a gorgeous car. It's like an old eagle owl; being attacked by the crows all the time. I think it deserves better!

    Best wishes, Kare
     
  11. UroTrash

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    I really agree with this. I remember seeing 330 GT 2+2 and 250 GTEs 20 or 25 years ago and being struck by how ungainly they looked, but as time goes on I like them both more and more. Same thing for the Mondial and the GT4, I'm really liking all these cars and would be happy to have any one of the 4 in my garage!

    With the exception of a few glaring show cars, there's not a Ferrari made that I would not drive with pride.
     
  12. ArtS

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  13. Smiles

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    Art: seeing your car driving in Times Square is simply awesome!

    Here's my "bland" front end...
     
  14. ArtS

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    Matt,

    Thanks for the complement. Mine was the only vintage car there. Lots more pictures in the NY metro section under "Times Square Shootout"- pictures start at around page 28.

    After filling one of the islands in Times Square with Ferraris, we did a spirited run around the bottom half of Manhattan and then headed to the FoLI concourse where Jim G. had his P4.

    You can actually build up some speed in the city if you are there very early on a Sunday morning

    Regards,

    Art S.

    PS. Tis the season to add a Christmas tree to the roof!
     
  15. ArtS

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    PPS. I happen to like the looks of your car very much, especially in silver.
     

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