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  1. donv

    donv Two Time F1 World Champ
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  2. Chris 250GTE

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    That car was at Fantasy Junction a while back. Car looks like a solid, original condition that would be a fun driver. Would like to see what a 212 like that goes for.
     
  3. gtofreak

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    It is S/N 0219 EL, owned by Paul Forbes in CA. Shopped around the world for years. Unrestored, great patina. Ex-Paul Hackman.
     
  4. donv

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    Thanks for the info! It does indeed look very nice.
     
  5. Andy

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    It's still listed at Fantasty Junction as well, for $475k.
     
  6. donv

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    I wonder who the guy is in Oregon that is trying to sell it on eBay, then?
     
  7. donv

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    Now I'm more confused. The Fantasy Junction car is listed as "0129EL" which would not be a 212 Inter according to Raab (he does show an 0129S as a 195 Inter with a Ghia body). 0219EL comes up as a 212 Inter with a Vignale body, however.

    It does look like the same car, although not the same pics. Is this a typo on Fantasy Junction's part?
     
  8. Peter

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    Yes, it's a typo at F.J. The car really is 0219EL.

    I too am wondering why its up fo sale in two different selling mediums (maybe its a consignment sale through F.J.?).
     
  9. Andy

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    Fantasy Junction does a lot of consignment sales so I think that's what's going on here.
     
  10. shaughnessy

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    Robert Muis a friend of Forbes with computer skills.

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  11. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Well, it's MILES from $475K on ebay!

    Do cars like this ever make the money on ebay, Tom?
     
  12. donv

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    Thanks for the info, Tom.

     
  13. shaughnessy

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    No, Never!!! Ebay rep in one place, car in another with the financier in another state and Paul Forbes the decision maker is in Costa Mesa, yet another state.
    A real confidence builder for a nearly $500,000 transfer of funds

    I believe Ebay ad dillutes the value of such a specialized car.
    Maybe next week they will place an ad in the AUTOTRADER or even better yet the local PENNYSAVER.
    Most people that go to garage sales would be a candidate for such a fine automobile. There is a Classic car section in the Pennysaver to place your free ads below Chevy Novas and above Ford Fairlanes. This car will stand right out.

    Tom Shaughnessy
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  14. Texas Forever

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    Quick question, Tom. Forget about Ebay. These folks are just using it for advertising. But what motivates someone to sell one of these old cars at auction versus private treaty? Does it mean that the car has been shopped everywhere and nobody is buying? Or do these owners think that they can get a higher price, even after the commission?

    Dale
     
  15. Napolis

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    Often auctions are for legal reasons. You can't dispute an auction sale price for estate purpose. Auctions often result in good prices as well. Note the 3 million dollar olds show car.
     
  16. Texas Forever

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    True, although I hate to see any family have to liquidate assets to pay estate taxes, which are largely voluntary or due to igorance.

    I gotta admit that B-J is great place to sell American iron. But this is deliberate on thier and Keith Martin's part.

    I was wondering, though, what would motivate someone with a valuable Ferrari to sell at, say, RM in Monterey versus a private deal.

    Dale
     
  17. donv

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    Dale, as they say, all you need is two bozos in the same room and you're set!

    Seriously, with these high-end cars I think an auction at the right venue can bring in at least as much as a private sale. When would you ever have your car in front of more qualified (and motivated!) buyers than at Monterey?

    And, as a seller, it's relatively risk free. Put a reserve on it, and if it doesn't sell no big deal. Plus it's gotten that much more exposure.

     
  18. shaughnessy

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    This car has been at 2 auctions Montery Brooks couple a years ago and I believe GStaad later th esame or next year

    Keep staying one step ahead of the market with pricing,
    The Paul Forbes method
     
  19. El Wayne

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    ...of never having to say "goodbye" to your car.
     
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    :)
     

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