dust free brake pads

a lot of time the dust is caused by the steel rotors as well.

Pagid RS19 is an endurance brake pad that works well in cold conditions and even better in track conditions. It is the official Ferrari compound for the rear axle on the Ferrari F430 Challenge and F458 Challenge, long lasting, low dust, and available for F430/360 (with standard steel brakes), contact your Pagid distributor, Pad shape (part#) is E1408 for front and rear axle.

They're a little noisy, because they are track pads.

If you want quiet pads not track capable and low dust go with the Black RS 4-2-1, this is one compound with less dust than the pads used in the Stradale/F430/Scuderia/F458 with CCB rotors, which is the Pagid Blue compound (RS 4-2).

If the car has CCB rotors, there are zero issues with dust and the stock pads, or the track pads. So, if you want light track use capability and low dust, the RS 4-2 is a better choice, but RS 4-2-1 is the pad with the lowest dust level from PAGID.

PAGID has been supplying the brake pads to Ferrari for many years.

I never consider price when choosing brake pads, wheels, tires. Usually the cheap stuff comes at a price, and when that cheap price means lack of performance or higher chances of an accident at the limits of response, the money saved on the cheap stuff will be used on the expected consequences and add money to this.

 

F430GT, Awesome suggestions again! Man, you know probably more than most mechanics. Now I'll be getting some RE-11's and and PAGID pads. Thanks!

 

By the way, with the PAGID RS-19, and a brake fluid like castrol srf, Endless, Motul RBF600 on a standard 360 Modena or F430 with steel brakes, you will enjoy a track day free of the brake fading experienced with the stock Ferrari pads for the standard steel brakes.

I have used RS19 for over 7 years, I'm glad they are the choice for the F430 Challenge pads as these are the only track pads available from Ferrari for the Scuderia.

The RS29 (which I currently use in my Cayman and Cayenne TT) are track pads as well, they are the newer generation of the RS19, but they don't last as long and they have a stronger bite, so they are a little annoying for street use. Unfortunately, PAGID doesn't make RS19 for these two cars, otherwise I would be on them.

 

At what point do you recommend replacing brake pads (70% worn or more or less)?

I changed my wheels to the 20" Scuderia and they feel like they have a lot less grip.

Thanks.

 

F430gt, thanks for the great post. Without changing to a big brake kit is the Rs19 the best Performing pad for hard street driving?

I am planning to get these and castrol srf.


Thanks.

 

Do the track pads need more time to "warm up" for performance vs. the "normal street brake pads"? I'm not an expert, but in the past the trade off to great track pads was that they didn't perform well on a street car when the car has cold pads, or even when the car is merely driving at normal operating speeds for the street, and often made more noise to boot.

Regarding brake pads that are non-OEM:
I myself will never again stray from the normal street pads for any car I own. I had a bad experience with my BMW 540 where people on roadfly (a BMW forum like ferrarichat) were all recommending some certian brand of pad that performed better and left much less brake dust than OEM. I put these "better than OEM" pads on and new front rotors when I needed to get new brakes, and the installer was an expert in maint. and higher performance upgrades for BMWs (had several 1st generation M3's there)- he was careful to bed them in the proper way after installation. Anyway, my braking performance went from not as good as the OEM performance (which were and still are phenominal for a V8 sedan) to worse and worse over several thousand miles. I'll admit there was considerably less brake dust, but the performance got worse to the point that there were pulsations in the brake at highways speeds, that were actually quite violent if I had to make a faster than normal slowdown (like when traffic comes to a sudden stop on the highway for instance.)

The guy that put them on said there might be buildup on the roters and I should try to burn them off by finding an open and empty highway and accelerate to 80 then slam the brakes on pretty hard to about 20 and repeat several times- that didn't work and I was also concerned about damaging the suspenion due to the pulsations, so I went to my normal BMW guy had him order up OEM brake pads and yet another new set of rotors as I had had enough. Problem solved- the OEM brakes are once again awesome and yes I do get more brake dust again.

My lesson was learned and it was relatively expensive and frustrating. The expense and frustration would be a multiple on my ferrari vs. BMW, and so my vote is for a street car to keep it OEM (they are Brembo after all!). Switching to a race/track type of pad or a pad that advertises less brake dust is almost as bad as when people were warping the brake discs on their BMWs and Mercedes in the 80's with those terrible brake shields that created a barrer against the rear of the holes on a rim to stop brake dust from getting out....and air to get in to cool the brakes!

There are some that will disagree with me or have some pad they swear by and that pad may indeed be better than OEM, but they won't change my mind- I have no complaints on the brake performance and I'll take the extra 5 minutes every now and then to clean the brake dust off the rims.

By the way, I have the RE-11 tires and they are great!

-Andrew

 

I had pagid yellow track pads in my 996tt for street use. They did take time to heat up for optimum performance and were really loud of street use. But the braking performance after heating up was awesome even on the street.

I couldgo to the track and pound the car all day and drive home. Never bothered to swap back to street pads. The noise was annoying though.

 

I put Porterfield RS-4's on my 355 and loved them. They did not squeak, had much less dust (but not non-existent) & most importantly stopped the car very well.