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DSLR cameras vs. Club/Bar/Restaurant policies

Discussion in 'Creative Arts' started by Pav, Aug 17, 2009.

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  1. Pav

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    Something i noticed in London and on French Riviera staff in let's say "hype" places is openely reluctant to let you go in with a DSLR camera, and i realised bigger it is scarrier it seems. In several places in London i had to convince them to keep it with me instead of leaving it at the cloakroom (managed in 20% of the cases). On french riviera it was a short and sweet no-no. Even in places like bars & restaurants the policy is similar.

    Can anybody explain me what is the fuss here? And how to avoid that?
     
  2. M.James

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    Because you're 'armed' like a professional Paparazzi, and everyone hates 'those people'? You're trying to bring a pro-grade camera into a venue where people do NOT want to be photographed by strangers, then have their unauthorized pics altered/posted on the internet? You might as well try and bring a loaded handgun into the club.....

    Yes, I know that every friggin' cell-phone in the world has a camera, but back in the 'good ole' days', not everyone had the tools available in their pocket to ruin someone else's life for alittle 'indiscretion'. Never Mind anyone's right-to-privacy. And please don't feed me this crap about how you're not one of 'those people' who wouldn't do that - fewer and fewer people with a camera can be trusted to have purely 'artistic' intentions anymore, not with so much online commerce for lurid digital content. There are millions of people out there who would gladly whore-out nekkid pics of their own grandmother if the right amount of money changed hands.
     
  3. Pav

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    At the second paragraph, i completely don't care about the other peoples and socialites, i even must say that at some point their presence is hard to stand in venues/restaurants cf. their rudeness and complete lack of behavior.
    I love taking pictures for my own sake of my own friends in places i go to. Point and shoot camera is a big no when you know what you can do with a DSLR, plus i love "situational" pictures.
    If smaller cameras are allowed i still don't understand why a big one isn't.

    To clarify, in my case a DSLR wasn't itself a problem to get into the venue, but the next stage was (cloakroom recommendation).
    Also truth is, i achieved to get through inside with it when the table was at my name or if it was obvious there was some $ involved in my coming to the place.
    I think the moment it annoyed me the most it was at Windows bar/restaurant at Hilton Park Lane in London. The view over London there is just amazing and i was with a gorgeous ukrainian girl for a date there. Wanted to take some pictures at high iso long exposure without flash of her and of the view.
     
  4. the_stig

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    Didn't China ban DSLRs from the last olympics? Plus I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that FIFA were banning them from games. Lots of stuff about this on the photography forums with p&s being allowed while pro looking cameras are not.
     
  5. beast

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    I have been to a few events where I was turned away at the gate and told to put my camera equipment in my car. Needless to say I demanded that I get my $$ refunded because they did not have a posted policy concerning pro grade camera equipment.
     
  6. TG

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    #6 TG, Aug 19, 2009
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    It all depends. Restaurants I wouldn't try.

    Bringing a DSLR into clubs has given me the most access during events, etc..

    Mark 'the Cobrasnake' has made a career out of this, who I would say created the niche "party photography"

    He first started by sneaking his point and shoot into hollywood clubs, and now gets paid to travel around the globe to shoot events and parties. Last I heard, his site generates 60k+ viewers a day and the site design has stayed the same from the beginning....

    http://thecobrasnake.com
     
  7. Pav

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    Let's continue, i was at the Frieze art fair in Regent's Park London, same story "sorry no big cameras". I ultimately managed to get in with the camera anyways by putting it in my friends bag and trying another gate. Thought it has to do with press accreditation or something but i was surprised normal people were also inside with pretty heavy cameras (D3, 5D MkII etc).

    Something else i noticed i do scare people off with the camera if i just walk on the street with it. I don't look like a tourist per se plus tourists generally handle D40's or XTi's when it comes to DSLRs and i don't look like a photographer either (i don't walk around with camera gear, only the camera plus an appropriate lens) so people don't get it and get scared, overall if i pass next to them, not taking a picture, generally scared of the fact the camera is so big, like it was a gun or something. Frankly I don't get it.
     
  8. 8-Ball

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    Never tried bars or restaurants specifically, but you do seem to get strange reactions carrying a camera around in the UK. I think people are gradually being convinced by the authorities that taking photos makes you a terrorist or peadophile.
     
  9. 4REphotographer

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    I spent 2 days over the summer shooting in NYC, just walking around greenwich village, soho etc and never got any strange reactions from people, must be very different over there.
     

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