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  1. grahamdelooze

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  2. tomgt

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    From classicdriver:

    "Star of their show was unquestionably the so-called Ferrari ‘Breadvan’, a 250GT SWB modified in period for the young racing team owner Count Volpi which seemed almost no higher off the ground than a Ford GT40. Alas, the price was also too low and it did not reach its $3.5m bottom estimate, perhaps hindered by a non-original engine and a market limited to collectors under 5’5"...I’m told we might see it going to a new home within the next month though."

    So the car has a non-original engine? So if 'matched' it will worth be a lot more.
     
  3. SefacHotRodder

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    It states that it has a non original engine in the auction catalogue description. Numero interno 942/62E

    "Of significance, the original engine is no longer installed nor accompanying the car; having spoken with Mr. Martin Johnson, it was certainly still in the car when it left the UK thus it either went amiss before or while in restoration"
     
  4. tomgt

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    So there is someone outhere with an engine worth a lot or money...........
     
  5. Cairos

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    Does this mean, that 1965GT is a complete replica?
     
  6. jikmik

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    #56 jikmik, Apr 9, 2009
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    Does anyone know where this picture is from? from witch race? it is the chassis number 2053GT and is with #9 and should be from 1963
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  7. Boudewijn

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    This photo was taken at Spa 1963, but before the 500 km race in May that year.
     
  8. hhh

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    2445 is the Francochamps car that got damaged in a crash at Le Mans.
    For many years it carried the number of 1965 for customs reasons (....), however the car has always been 2445 but had the nose and tail rebuilt by Drogo after the Le Mans crash.
    The complete center section is std Hot Rod SWB.

    The current 1965 has not a lot to do with 1965 I think; in fact I believe there is alsoa black replica trying to pose as 1965 in France.
     
  9. davidedegiorgi

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    Hi everybody,
    please forgive me if this is not the right place for this post, it sure looks like.
    I've been reading this forum for ages and to me is one of the most knowledgeable on the net, and nice people too!

    I've been writing posts on my blog for some time now and I would really like some confrontation on my last post. I've been trying to trace the history of 2053GT an especially I've been trying to find reliable sources about what E.F. decided to do with the remains of the crash at Spa in '64.

    I hope is not bad taste of me to post here a link to my blog (no advertisement in there) but I would sure appreciate the input of some of you guys for suggestions or corrections. I would really like to wrap up the final story about this fascinating car.

    I would obviously quote the author of the suggestions of corrections.

    here's the link:
    http://classic-cars-talks.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/ferrari-chassis-2053gt.html

    Thanks for you incredible passion and knowledge.

    Keep up the amazing work.

    davide
     
  10. miurasv

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    Marc Sonnery, the Ferrari historian and author may be able to help you. He is a contributor on this site and uses the name Nembo1777.
     
  11. davidedegiorgi

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    I know his work very well!
    Thanks for the tip!
     
  12. miurasv

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    Davide, after reading your blog in the link above regarding 0523GT and 2053GT I wondered what you think of John Starkey's article below?

    http://www.johnstarkeycars.com/pages/articles/articles_07.html
     
  13. davidedegiorgi

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    Yes, I did read it and crossed some other sources with it. It's a very inspiring article and I sure hope to reach that standard one day.

    I couldn't find exact info on which rely thou, so I decided to mention also other theories.
     
  14. Maseratista

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    Car is restored and it is in italy.
     
  15. tomgt

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    Do you know who did the coachwork?
     
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  16. Nembo1777

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    Recent photos, info?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  17. Nembo1777

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    Speaking of cars listed in this thread title does anyone have the Christie's Monterey jet center 2005 auction text for the Breadvan -bodied by Neri & Bonacini, NOT Drogo-?
    I have never read it and it seems not to be accessible online any more. Many thanks in advance to anyone able to scan and post it here, hopefully it will prove less elusive than some other...answers on other cars discussed here:D
     
  18. Birel

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    I remember 2053 being with Paul Baber in December 1999, categorised as a "Drogo resurrection"
     

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