Downpipes with Hi-Flow Cats for the FF?

Not sure what you mean. The Capristo system is louder than the standard exhaust all of the time. However, adding the x-pipe reduces the volume, especially at low revs, with the valves closed. That is something I can attest to, regardless of what Vivid has suggested! I have tried both combinations within a day of each other on my current FF.

Another option to look into would be the Novitec system. Noblesse Oblige has one on his FF and posted that with the valves closed, it doesn't sound any different than the standard exhaust. It's only when you open the valves that it 'comes alive'. Maybe he'll chime in?

 

Capristo plus x-pipe will give you the desired effect. No drone at highway speeds and not too loud for long journeys. Videos just don't convey accurately what these systems really sound like in everyday use.

 

If I had an F12, the following configuration would be installed on the car:

- Novitec Rosso ECU tune
- Novitec Rosso sports cats
- Capristo X-pipe
- Capristo valved mufflers with remote
- Novitec chrome exhaust tips
- BMC air filters

 

what is the diff between NR x-pipe and cap x-pipe?

What does the BMC air filter do? pros and cons??

thanks

 

Sorry, i disagree, i have compared both side-by-side (one was mine), the NR is almost "smoother"....where as cap's a bit more sensational/emotional; more "crackle" when you let off the accelerator....put it simply it's such a small difference in sound (quality identical) that it certainly is not enough to justify paying almost twice the price. neither car had the x-pipe

from personal experience, dealing with capristo (as a company) is better than the others...i'm not going to make an issue of it on an open forum, but i had a TERRIBLE experience with a VERY well-known supplier of aftermarket parts for my F12

 

Capristo X-pipe: probably a bit cheaper than the NR and the same sound
BMC air filter: some more depth and induction noise I would think.

 

do we know what, if any, downside to having the x-pipe?

 

You tried both stock and Capristo with X, within a day of each other?

You're saying the Capristo or NR with the valves closed is not louder at idle and cruising speeds (2000 rpm)?

 

X pipe ONLY?

Or X pipe with exhaust?


thanks !

 

I'm so confused, I never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer. Right not I'm not sure I'm even in the drawer.

 

I will pm you when I have a solid date, if anyone else is in the area please let me know.

Thanks

 

Lets have some Ferrari V12s blasting along the Autobahn

 

I tried Capristo with and without x-pipe within a day of each other.

Capristo with valves closed is still always louder than standard Ferrari exhaust, but at idle and cruising speed, is not so loud to be a nuisance.

 

X-pipe with exhaust!

 

I'm seriously considering either Novitech or Capristo for my car, but am a little worried that the additional noise day to say will be s pain when I've got my kids in the car. We do log journeys in the FF often overnight so they're asleep in the back. If it's grumbling away and they don't sleep it will have been a bad move.

From the discussion so far it seems that the NR is quieter with valves closed / low revs and both are rather enjoyable at high revs. Plus a x pipe is a must so that you remove unwanted resonance / booming at low revs...

The NR is a lot more expensive but if it means the difference between sleeping children and awake tired kids saying 'are we there yet' every 2 minutes then the extra cost could be worth it...

Any thoughts from anyone who's got the NR?

 

NR quieter than Capristo with flaps closed

 

Thanks - good to know.

 

Richard, I'm hoping to be able to make the UK meet. If you're planning on going too, you're more than welcome to take my FF out for a blast to hear for yourself. Worth waiting until then before making a decision, assuming you're going? Mac.

 

I'll be there no need for me to drive it (but appreciate such a generous offer!), but a hearing it start up and idle should tell me all I need to know!

 

I'm not sure that it will. Start up is quite loud and gives a sharp bark. Idle isn't too much louder than standard exhaust. It's when you start accelerating thought the gears that it comes into its own! Cruising is very civilised up to 80 mph. Look forward to meeting you.

 

Richard, will you please let me knnow your thoughts on the sound of the FF when you hesr it topmorrow with Manu/Jack @ Scud systems. thanks a lot

 

Which system?

 

Capristo

 

As promised

Guys - I went and did an A/B comparison of Capristo with my standard exhaust at Scuderia Systems in Egham this morning. I've known Manu there for more than 10 years (he did me a a great deal on a Tubi on my 3200GT at the time) and Jack has been super helpful in setting up the opportunity to hear the Capristo.

Firstly - Apologies for not posting video, it was raining hard so standing around getting soaked and knackering my iPhone wasn't an option. Maybe they'll be another time, but in reality the sound quality from a phone just cannot get across what these exhausts are like..

So cut to the chase - The Capristo is no louder with the valves shut than the standard exhaust. No boom, no rattle etc. The only difference is a slightly more excitable start up sound, that settles down to a quieter than standard idle in around 10 seconds or so. The one I listened to had the X pipe. I understand you can even have it tuned to be quieter (or louder) than the standard at idle with valves closed if you wish - I think thats potentially going too far, but it may be practical for some folks...

With the valves open it's like a different car - the standard FF is a great sound but this is much superior, and has the higher pitch frequencies that the standard exhaust doesn't let through sing through loud and clear. Sounds like a proper F1 car should! Having passengered at highway speed with valves open and closed it is the best of both worlds - refined with valves shut, and with them open, through a tunnel its awesome. But even with them open cruising at 3k revs is quite comfortable and the sound though noticeable is not intrusive or boomy.

Thanks to Jack at Scuderia for inviting me down and going the extra mile. in the meantime I'll be sorting a new set of rear pipes for my 70s 911. Might need valves in that one too...

With no warranty issues to worry about, and Scuderia having a well known Ferrari agent do the fitting I can't see any downsides here, and I have to admit I was a bit sceptical before. Particularly having a young family, and being paranoid about fitting something that would mean my kids couldn't sleep in the car. Exhaust tech has clearly come a long way, and having control like this over the valve positions really makes sense.

Sure the Novitech is great, but the flexibility of being able to control the Capristo independently of the matinetto has me sold now..