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does anybody else hate that oily headlight effect?

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  1. Webby

    Webby F1 Veteran

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    Examples:
    http://anything-auto.net/EVENTS/CLUB_MEETS/XTREMENEWPORT05/newport05_36.jpg
    http://anything-auto.net/EVENTS/CLUB_MEETS/XTREMENEWPORT05/newport05_51.jpg
    http://www.swisscarsightings.com/ferrariclubswitzerlandromand2005/Ferrari%20360%20Challenge%20Stradale%20760.jpg
    http://www.swisscarsightings.com/ferrariclubswitzerlandromand2005/Ferrari%20360%20Challenge%20Stradale%20768.jpg

    People keep on trying to make their pictures look "professional" and adding this fake effect which they usually do excessively and make the car look retarded. I don't want to be a troll but I wish people would just let the cars look natural. Anybody else have something to say?
     
  2. richard

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    #2 richard, Aug 26, 2005
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    It isn't a "fake effect" -- it's what happens when you shoot using a polarizer on a polarized surface. Most headlights on new, expensive cars are polarized like that, I assume it is to help keep light from projector headlights going in the same direction (it filters "overspray").

    Love it or hate it, it is a side effect of shooting with a polarizer, which reduces the glare/reflection and makes the details of the car much more visible and appealing. Here's a little comparison, same photo with and without polarizer (polarized photo is on the right). Again, this isn't a "fake effect" you do in software, it is a lens attatchment which functions the same as polarized sunglasses.
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  3. TexasMike

    TexasMike F1 World Champ

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    Thanks for the comparison. I'm not fond of the way the headlights look either, but I do think the picture looks better overall with a polorized lens.
    IMO the first picture look fine, but the second one looks a lot better.

    Yep, I also need a digital SLR with a polorized lens.
     
  4. TestaRoasta

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    The Aston Martin DB9's headlights have that in every picture I've seen of it. Yuck, but what can you do?
     
  5. Just_some_dude

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    Great explanation, I always thought the rainbow color to the headlight lenses was some side effect of the manufacturing process, a coating, or differing thickness in the actual clear material causing diffraction or prism effect.

     
  6. Aureus

    Aureus Formula 3

    Try on a pair of polarized sun glasses, and then look at the world through a tinted window. Almost everything you see will have that little rainbow effect.
     
  7. TinaDK

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    Thanks a LOT for the explantation!!!! :) I have wondered for a loong time now, why some people can take a photo of a car and get great colors and little reflection... and I couldn't :)
    Now I know that I just have the wrong cam ;)
     
  8. Speedracer38

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  9. TexasMike

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    So Richard, do you always use a polorizer, or just under certain light conditions?
     
  10. richard

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    I use it for most automobile stuff unless the point of the photo is a reflection...it allows me to capture richer color, less ambient junk, and you can see through the windshield into the car as well :)
     
  11. TexasMike

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    Thanks for the info.
    I hope to get a new camera before the end of the year.
     
  12. SefacHotRodder

    SefacHotRodder F1 World Champ

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    The reason the headlights get like that (and other parts like the windshield etc on some pics) is due to certain elements in the glass itself. I can't remember what it is but there is something that makes it like that.
     
  13. richard

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    Mike, you can buy a polarizer as an attatchment for the end of the lens...shouldn't much matter what camera, they're made in all sizes :)
     
  14. karc

    karc Formula Junior

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    yea, i got a polarizer filter for my camera for $10. the first 2 pics in this post (red 360) are mine using that filter.
     
  15. TexasMike

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    Thanks...I just remembered they do make some attachments for my Kodak DX7590. I'll have to see what I can get. The most common one I have heard about is a circular polorizer. Is there a normal polorizer and what is the difference?
     
  16. richard

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    I'm not sure what quality levels are like -- decent polarizers for the lenses I use range from $100-$150 USD, perhaps if the lense is very small they are not as much? I have never bought one for anything else.

    Mike, a circular polarizer allows you to rotate (swivel style) the direction of polarization and is a requirement if your camera is SLR or meters & focuses through the lens. If you buy a normal type polarizer, the metering and autofocus will not function properly.

    EDIT: Mike, this is what you're looking for. B+W is a reputable company and they make good stuff.
     
  17. TexasMike

    TexasMike F1 World Champ

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    Great! Thank you.

    EDIT: This might sound stupid, but why is it called a B&W filter? It's not just for B&W pictures is it?
     
  18. NY550

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    i wouldnt care what my headlights looked like when i have a really expensive car to drive around!!!!
     
  19. richard

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    B+W is the name of the company. Note the "plus" symbol and not an ampersand. :)

    http://www.bwfilter.com/
     
  20. TexasMike

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    Mike,

    that is merely mis-labelling on part of the retailer. It fits a Kodak camera, so they are calling it a Kodak part! If you look at the image of the filter, you can see the letters "B+W" on the side of the filter :)

    Either way, it would not matter -- there is no difference for color vs. black and white in terms of polarization...
     
  22. triXXXter

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    #22 triXXXter, Aug 27, 2005
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    I am quite the opposite. I like the oily look very much. Here is a pic that is a prime example.
    Thanks richard for the explantation of why they do that!!
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  23. sketchsk85

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    im with trixxxter. i love the oily look. especially on the enzo.
     
  24. TexasMike

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    Thanks again for all your help Richard. I'm going to get one as soon as I can.
     
  25. jimmmy

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    I love it to and would'nt want to change it !!!
     

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