do NOT speed in switzerland

What a ****ign looney bin. Absolutely ridiculous. Standard of living may be high in Sui but you won't see me there in a hurry...!

 

I've already heard these warnings from several friends... They are completely zero tolerant of speeding.

The ambulance speeding tickets sounds like an idea our government would get...! Unbelievable...

 

Wow... That is over the top. I knew it was bad over there but that's nuts. I'm sure it takes a lot of fun out of having a fun car.

 

Wow...

 

Another typical nanny state with cameras everywhere. What a joke. How people can live under the governments boot like this is a sad testimant to human nature.

 

You would think that they encourage speeders to take it to the tracks instead, but I read somewhere that they don't even have racetracks...

Is this true, Ross? There are no racetracks in Switzerland, because they're banned (or something along that line)?

 

It is crap like this that makes the Swiss some of the more dangerous drivers on the German Autobahns. They tend to go bat/hit crazy up here when they see the "No Restrictions" sign.

I avoid them like the plague.




Sucks to be them in their own country though. I do feel for you and them.

Here in Germany we just SERIOUSLY increased the moving traffic fines. BAD news for me as I get those. The wife is the "Queen of Parking Tickerts" though.

 

Circuit races (e.g F1) are still banned in Switzerland. it was a reaction of the 1955 tragedy of Le Mans. The last race was 1954 in Bremgarten (Bern).

Always again there were attempts to change this, but yet it didn't happen and I doubt it will.

But there is a lot hill climb racing...

 

I still remember getting caught while 'speeding' on the swiss Autobahn 20 years ago. I was not doing 'fast', it was something about 10 km/h above the 120 km/h allowed. They stopped me immediately.

I can't remember what it did cost, maybe around 50-100 Swiss Francs, but I didn't have the money left. So they really wanted me to leave my passport there with them at the Autobahn, heading for the next town and cash machine, driving back on the Autobahn (wrong direction), turning and coming back to them to pay the fine.

No possibilies to pay later.

 

Sounds almost as bad as Ohio...

 

go to Uruguay

Great roads & no Cops

 

Ah I'll have to remember that when I visit relatives in ZCH .. and leave the 360 here.

My father in law lived in Geneva for a while in the 80's.. he liked living in Switzerland was living in a prison..

 

My Ferrarichat friends and I had some fun on the passes about 4 years ago. We were smart about it, always being very nice close to other traffic and in town. I need to stress that we never endangered anyone, and the speeds were over the limit but not ridiculous (similar to what Ross described above). However, local residents organised with the cops to set a trap. A very tempting 80km/h straight leading out of a village was where they lay in wait. I was the leading car and I thought "well this is just the type of road where they would check". So we didn't speed. They jumped out from an underpass and several cars were pulled of the road. The cops were incensed that they didn't have anything to pin on us. We were very polite and co-operative, but refused to admit to timed runs (which are illegal but which we didn't do anyway). We got a speech that still rings in my ears. We were warned that our cars could be impounded and stripped (searched to the bone) if they wanted to. I believe it is only because we were on our way to Italy and leaving Switzerland that they let us go. They followed us until the Italian border (about 1 hour or so).

We were in Switzerland for only 3 hours but I will never forget the last 2 of them. Since that day I have not taken any liberties at all in Switzerland. And to be frank - I try and avoid driving through Switzerland these days. The extra stress, even if you're being lawful, takes all the fun out of it. And the looks of the residents....everyone looks at you like you are a drugdealer. Frankly I don't know how there is such a large and passionate Ferrari community in that country (and there is). Because if I lived there I don't think I'd enjoy Ferrari ownership.

Once we popped over the border, we felt liberated. Italy is the place to be when you're driving a Ferrari (but don't be too cocky there either, keep it within reason).


Onno

 

The amount of money collected by tickets for speeding emitted by the network of automatic radars in France for 2012 was 730 millions €, more or less a billion U$.

During the month of July 2012 alone, as the agreement for actually fining the belgian drivers caught for speeding in France entered into agreement, 47.000 fines were sent for this single month alone to Belgian drivers...

Rgds

 

ahh Germany. the last refuge of the true motoring enthusiast. the best roads, cars, and drivers.

 

That's actually a good idea. I mean 10k in fines and lawyer fees for speeding sounds outrageous but for someone driving an F40, is a $250 ticket enough disincentive not to speed ?

Seems like the Swiss law did its job. It doesn't sound like you will ever speed there again.

There are many states in the US that will arrest you for going 30mph over the speed limit too. But the fines are not indexed. So the same ticket for one person might be a minor annoyance, whereas as with someone else it could be quite painful.

 

Not to detract from your situation - I understand your warning, and I feel your pain.


...but how bad can a Swiss prison possibly be? I imagine a resort-like place, host to jay walkers and expectorating vagrants; people who've put recyclables in non-recycling bins and a few people who might've resorted to profanity in the heat of a pub discussion.

 

You won't find those in prison, they're shot on the spot

 

I heard of a guy caught speeding in France a few years back in a RUF 911. The french seized his car and put it up for auction - he was not even allowed to buy his car back. He desperately wanted it back, and managed through a third-party to buy it back at the auction, meaning that he paid for his car twice. Yikes. So although the swiss are stringent, I would be even more careful nailing it in France.

 

News on the radio this AM reported that the DC speed camera near the K street tunnel has been generating an average of 300 tickets a day this fiscal year.
DC has generated tens of millions in speed camera tickets in the last seven months.

But it's about "safety". Riiight.

http://www.wtop.com/109/3338258/Meet-DCs-most-profitable-speed-camera
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/dc-puts-a-price-on-speeding-295-million/2013/05/27/56a6cb52-b357-11e2-9a98-4be1688d7d84_story.html?wprss=rss_local

 

That's it.

I'm boycotting Chocolate.



But seriously, this sort of stuff will be the end of the super car market. The Muscle car era ended with high gas prices and un-insurable cars. Laws, restrictions, and regulations will be the death of the 200 MPH 3 second car. It just won't be worth it.

 

The 200 mph 3 sec super car is not worth it. Unless you live in Arabia parts of Africa South america where there are nice roads limited traffic and a general dosdain fror petty driving laws. Thats why maost fast cars these days are wealth fashion statements.

In most countries there are roads where you can go fast fro limited times, if you know where to look. In Switzerland the Grimsel pass seems to be frrequented by lots and lots of motorcycles, and I saw no cops cameras etc. But Switzerland sure is anit car, and then there is Franco Sbbaro.

I have felt for some time, that the socalled supercar needs to be dual role, able to drive to the track, thrash around it and then home. Certainly the the NE USA there are now a few private tracks as well as ever more numerous trackday DE events.