Do i really have to service every year?

You don't drive your 'car' to preserve value and it is still appreciating by several thousand pounds a month yet you begrudge a grand year to maintain your investment ? This does not really make sense

PS great thread title for grabbing attention !

 

The Scuderia is at risk for crank sag which blows out the crank seal if it sits and isn't driven.

 

That's not important. Whether the brakes squeal excessively is.

Yes. It will affect your resale. When you run your engine, oxides and acids build up in the engine oil. It's not inert. These will have a negative effect on the internals of the engine. Change it regularly.

 

I wouldn't worry about it to much. 80 miles, Your fine.

 

agree.

I'd use it more though. I feel bad for not driving my air cooled 911, but its gotten at least 1k miles so far this year.

 

The fluids need to be changed per schedule as they deteriorate whether the car is driven or not.

 

I thought the general rule of thumb was to service the car every two time you service the wife?



Mark

 

IMVHO one should drive their car at least a couple of times a month. Get the fluids up to full operating temperature. The car will require less service over time.

 

Why isn't the car being driven? It breaks my heart to see these things locked up and not used. I have a 550 and I try and use it as an every day driver and I have a 330 GT that I try and do 2 long trips a year in. They were made to be used weren't they? Or am I missing something

 

You are not missing anything but I wish you would trade roles for your cars! A 330 is a dream. Just ask Zambelli and I will bet his overall costs are the same as the 550.

Driving an immersive car is gone. Use the ones built with YOU as the critical component and damn the markets.

 

Not driving a Ferrari - especially the older models - can actually increase maintenance costs.

I bought a 328 that had been sitting for a few months - all the seals had to be replaced, etc. Got off to a rough start.

Of course, I had no intention of letting it sit - I drove it at least once a week and drove it hard, and it ran as reliably as a good old Honda.

Sadly, the market is heavily infested by prospectors, who are only in it for the money. I also here about some buying two of the same model - driving one and storing the other.

 

Another post hijacked by the hi mile militia!

We appreciate you all think Ferraris should be driven a thousand miles a week and you're not a real man unless you do, etc etc. And you may be right! But that wasn't what he asked.

The OP asked a specific question, about value if he didn't service his car every year (week in the title was on a a typo). He didn't ask for views about how much he should drive his Scud.

So the answer is not Ten Million or Darned Speculators. I don't know the answer, but I can hazard a hypothesis without moralizing on mileage. (And yup, some of us don't have time to drive as much as we'd like to be able to. Reality gets in the way of fantasy. Life can be like that.)

Let's take two three pedal 355s, low miles, coupes. Roughly similar to where a low miles Scud may be in a decade. May be (predicting is hypothetical).

If one had been serviced every year since 2006 and one had not been serviced since 2006, would the price difference of those two cars now be more than 10 X £1000 (the price mentioned for an annual service - not my number but the OPs).

Sure.

However if the cars in question had depreciated like a new Cadillac, then no.

If OP thinks values are more likely to follow the first scenario (355) than the second (Caddy), then - get it serviced.

Ultra rare collectors cars (of which Scud is not one) services matter less. For value. The question.

 

Well considering that oil was sitting idle in the ground for a million years or so, a couple years sitting in an undriven car can't really make a difference, can it? If anything the additives actually improve it.

Now a driven car is another story.

 

This is so patently false.

Used motor oil offers far better protection. Period.

The additive package needs combustion by-products to stabilize and achieve equilibrium chemically to produce the most reduction in wear particularly on startup. You can measure this with Blackstone Labs and research for yourself on BobIsTheOilGuy which are the definitive resources for oil chemistry and standards. Their data does not lie.

Oil has advanced so far now that the limiting factor are the filtration systems in vehicles. You will cause more wear to your engine starting it up once every two weeks to operating temperature than twice a week. The reason? The oil isn't clinging to the bores any longer and has completely drained into the crankcase. Most synthetic oils have a tough time clinging to the bores past 3 days. 5 days for semi-synthetics and 7 days for non-synthetic oils.

Hot oil burns off excess moisture and conditions seals. Maybe you've heard of the 512BBi and what happens when they sit in oil for a long length of time. Finally, the additive packages designed for wear break down even if you are not using them, which is why a 6 month change interval for a lightly driven vehicle regardless of mileage is strongly recommended and a year maximum for a car that is rarely or never driven.

The absolute worst thing you can do with a barn find or collector vehicle that hasn't been driven in years is to turn it over without a fluid change and manual prime first. Do with this info what you will.

 

The additives including detergents in the oil deteriorate over time. It should be changed at least annually regardless of mileage.

 

From what I have read, mased on oil analysis lower mileage oil is good for two yearsm if the car is warmed and used properly when started.. The big issue is people starting cars in their garage every month or so and barely moving the car thinking they are warming them up. If you start your car warm it up and drive it a good 10 miles with increasing vigor. Once started an engine should be fully warmed and used, othrwise you are just trapping moisture in the motor which is a real killer. I these carses youa re better off not starting n the car at all.

Brake fluid absorbs water and needs to be changed every two years, and rad fluid should not go longer than 5 years, otehrwise whgerehr you sue the car or not, those componants are internaly corroding at an advanced pace...

Any fuel should have stabilizers added. in the old days it was recomeded to store with a full tank to avoid moisiture buildup in the tank. Todays alcohol fuels, the lesser of evils is to store with minimal stabilized fuel.

I would rather le ta properly prepped car sit for 3 or 6 months and then have it driven propely, for 10 or 20 miles than have a car started every week or month and not driven.

A properly prepped car can sit for a year, but then all fluids should be changed before use. Or you can buy a polbag, seal the car in it with dessicant, as long as you startw ith fresh oil, fluids and properly stabilized fuel, you can be good for up to two years.

A lighlty driven car say 300- 1 k miles per year can go 2 years between oil changes, provided when driven(even if every 3 months) it is fully warmed and driven propely to get everythign up to tempoerature. Short trips and only warmup starts, better change the oil ever 3 months, evben then you are trapping moisture in the mtoor and rotting it out from the inside.

As to the market, most buyers are idiots, they go for shiney paint, and low mileage. Its the future owner who will get the big repair bills for engine and braking rebuilds once they try really use the car.

Its a a function of cycles and the nature of those cycles, coupled with time.

 

For less than a thousand quid i will fly over. Take you out for a pint or two....ok 3, 4....laugh at your jokes, pay you compliments etc...
The next day, will drive your scud to proper operating temps, then change the fluids and return her later that day. Actually might be best if we set this up when the Goodwood event is on in June.

Pm is fine.

 

Hahahaha, top man, scuds want to be caned once in a while, and it won't hurt them

 

Oh no. Your putting miles on it?

 

+1

The previous owner of my car let it sit and did no maintenance. $14k later, it's finally right again.

 

I disagree with this one. Fill it up. Should be no issue finding non-oxy fuel in most markets. If not, there are additives to stabilize and eliminate phase separation of ethanol "enriched" fuel...