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Disengaging 1st gear and park brake without power

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  1. Tupps11

    Tupps11 Formula Junior

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    Is there any way to disengage the hand brake and gear into neutral without having the battery connected? My car is arriving in a 20 ft shipping container and the clearing agent needs to unload the car (2015 F12).

    We disconnected the battery before sealing the container at the port of origin 45 days ago to avoid it getting drained while in transit. Im not allowed into that area of the port to reconnect the battery. Meanwhile, the clearing agent mentioned that they would prefer not to reconnect it as they will "not be responsible" for any damage or burnt fuses resulting from their attempt to reconnect the battery.

    Any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. Tupps11

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  3. AutobahnAndTrack

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    Look at owners manual.

    For Cali T it goes like this:

    If the electric parking brake cannot be deactivated because the battery is flat or there is a failure in the electrical system that controls it and the vehicle needs to be moved, the emergency procedure described below must be performed.
    • Open the luggage compartment lid.
    • Remove the tool kit cover.
    • Take key A out of the tool kit to release the electric parking brake.
    • Using the special rectangular groove B in the right of the tool kit (marked by a plate), place the release key in the hole (in the left part of the groove) and turn it clockwise. This movement loosens the parking brake cables.
    Important note
    To release the brake completely, the key needs to be turned 50 times whereas it starts to be released after approximately 20 turns.
    Once the electric parking brake has been manually released, the EPB node records a failure at the next key-on and a warning light and the following message “Parking Brake system revision. Go to dealer” is displayed on the TFT display.
     
  4. rockitman

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    Having them reconnect your battery seems to be the best solution in this scenario. 458 has a similar procedure using the tools. I would not trust them with the tool method. Better yet...pay a ferrari dealer to do it for you if possible.
     
  5. Solid State

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    Perhaps you can speak with the port authority folks and get someone trained up on the simple re-connect that does have access. Working with your dealer could be helpful here. Seems your clearing agent should have come across this before? I don't think anyone would accept liability unless they were compensated though.
     
  6. Noblesse Oblige

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    Yes! I know someone who tried the manual route on his 458 and broke the tool.
     
  7. asphaltca

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    How about have the shipping container shipped to your property and you perform the task. You will need ramps to back it out and then just have it picked up and sent back. It will be less costly versus the stealership or the cost to repair the parking brake. You could also try to slip the guy in the yard some money to escort you to the container so you can off load it. Even sign a wavier if necessary.
     
  8. RickLederman

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    The Cali T manual says to turn 1/4 turn, same as the FF! If you turn it 50 times as advised above I'll bet you will break something. Both manuals say to turn 1/4 turn, unless the Ferrari manuals are wrong.

    From the FF owner manual page 257:
    Park Lock emergency release
    Warning
    The emergency release procedure must only be carried out by
    specialised workshop technicians.
    If the system cannot be released, contact the nearest Ferrari
    Service Centre.
    Warning
    This should be avoided unless absolutely necessary:
    - to tow the vehicle;
    - if there is a Park Lock failure (displayed on the left TFT
    display with the message “Only manual unlock gearbox
    allowed: See handbook”).
    Warning
    When the Park Lock safety device is deactivated manually, the
    vehicle may move unexpectedly.
    The vehicle is only kept stationary by the parking brake, if
    applied.
    The Park Lock manual emergency release device is found in the top
    right of the tool kit, as shown by the arrow in the figure.
    To perform the Park Lock emergency release procedure, do the
    following:
    • Take wrench D out of the tool kit.
    Warning
    Wrench D may only be used by specialised workshop
    technicians, as indicated on label C on the tool bag.
    • Remove the rubber protection cap E.
    • Place wrench D in the manual release device housing F.
    • To perform the emergency release, turn wrench D clockwise for a
    quarter turn.
    If the electrical system allows it, check that the letter “N” appears
    on the gearbox display by turning the ignition key to position II.
    The following message will appear on the left TFT display:
    “Gearbox not in Parking position”. At the same time, an audible
    signal is repeated four times to indicate that it has been released.

    Now, I believe rubber cap E is located in the tool box area, upper right, at the upper right edge. Popping the rubber cap out gains access to the very easy to see release device. Wrench D is located to the left inside the tool kit and is fairly large, slightly under what looks like a funnel in the photo in the user manual.

    The secret is, if you have a Ferrari then be sure to carry an owner's manual and as soon as you can read it. That helped me a bunch.
     
  9. Entropy

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    a few thoughts...

    1) Have been told by my friend the Ferrari master tech that doing a "manual release" is brutal and should be last-ditch to move a disabled car

    2)Rick's outline of the procedure sounds about right, though access in the F12 is different (but same idea). The effort to do the release is really high; you are literally using the tool to force the mechanism apart

    3) any chance they can get wheel casters in/under the car? literally, lift the car up onto rollers and roll it out? (note - do not let them attempt to use a pallet jack, you need to lift the car only at the jack points or you'll break the under tray...). If it's a standard 40 foot container, not sure how much room to get at the sides

    4) your best bet (and easiest) would be to bring a new battery (since the old one sitting for 45+ days may be suspect), open the hood and install it and drive it out. I'm unsure if you can negotiate that point, but the shipping company might be motivated to avoid a damage claim, unless having you pack the car already voided their liability.

    good luck
     
  10. Solid State

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    If they thought putting a clamp on the battery is too risky then I'm sure they don't want any part of the emergency release procedure!
     
  11. italiafan

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    Why do people create these miseries for themselves?
     
  12. rockitman

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    Jacking the car up and putting rolling dollies under each wheel is also an option.
     
  13. asphaltca

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    The only way to jack the car up from the rear or front as room will not allow for side jacking is by putting a block of wood on a narrow jack beside the tires and lifting by the lower control arms. I have done this without any issues. That being said there will be little room for the wheel dollies between the jack and tires. I bet the battery will be fine as it has not been connected for the 45 days and drawn down by the car's electronics. Aside from actually being allowed to hook up the battery they could lift the front of the sea container and shake the car out...Just kidding. Good luck!
     
  14. SAFE4NOW

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    #14 SAFE4NOW, Jun 1, 2016
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    F12 Manually putting transmission into Neutral

    Taking the transmission out of park is rather simple and can be done in less than a minute.


    1. Locate the " L " shaped silver metal tool. Located under the larger carpet panel in the rear storage area.

    2. Lift the smaller carpeted panel to access the silver dollar sized black rubber grommet

    3. Remove black rubber grommet and insert long end of L shaped silver metal tool down into hole until its engages locking mechinisim.

    4. Rotate tool approx one quarter turn clockwise. You will feel it " unlock " and then stop rotating.

    5. The transmission is now out of park.

    6. To re-engage the transmission, simply rotate the tool approx one quarter turn counter-clockwise.

    7. Reinstall black rubber grommet

    8. Replace tool back into its holder.
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    F12 Parking Brake

    Disengaging the parking brake is a little more difficult and will take several minutes.
    The " most difficult " part of this process is guiding the tool into the small hole.

    1. Locate the silver metal flexible tool located in the tool kit located underneath carpeted panel.

    2. Locate the small rectangle slot directly to the left of the sticker that says
    " Electronic Parking Brake "

    3. You will find, with the help of a flash light, that there is a small opening at the bottom of the rectangle cut out.

    4. Place the long end of the silver flexible tool down into the rectangle cut out and then into the small hole, twisting slightly at the same time, you will feel the end of the tool engage the locking mechanism.

    5. You will turn the tool clockwise a minimum of 20 full rotations. As noted below, it may take as many as 50 full rotations to full disengage the parking brake.

    6. You CANNOT use the provided tool to reengage the parking brake. It requires the Ferrari tool to reactivate. In the meantime you can drive the car, but you will not have a parking brake!!!!
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  16. rockitman

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    Thanks Steve. Ferrari should sub contract you to write their emergency procedures manual properly.
     
  17. otakki

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    Features like this make me hate modern cars and devices. What's wrong with a simple hand brake that has worked for over a century. Do people just don't know how to K.I.S.S anymore?!
     
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    Thank you Sir!

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    #19 imcarnuts, Jun 1, 2016
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    What is the difference between "Emergency release of the electric parking brake" & "Park Lock emergency release.? Pages 228 thru 231 of the manual. They are attached.
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  20. Tupps11

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    Thanks Steve! Amazing...illustrations and all!

    At this point i have 2 options:

    1. I am sending the clearing agent the instructions on how to disengage the gear/brake.

    2. They will bring the container with the car still inside to a civilian area in the port and allow me to enter and reconnect the battery...obviously what i would prefer.

    In any case, I'm annoyed cause Customs & Border Protection have asked for an NII X-ray of the container to make sure its not stuffed with contraband. That adds another 24-72 hours to the release of the container after it arrives on the vessel next Monday. Sigh :(
     
  21. SAFE4NOW

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    "Parking Brake" is the mechanical components of the parking brake itself, releasing the pressure of the parking brake pads from the inside of the rear rotors.

    "Park Lock" is the mechanical release of the transmission, out of Park into Neutral.

    S
     
  22. Tupps11

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    Just ran a trace of the container with the shipping company. It has finally unloaded today at 9:30pm at the port of Los Angeles!

    Hopefully, the battery connection will be easy enough and i can get the car started without any issues.

    Definitely gonna want to connect the car to the battery tender when i get it home. One thing i forgot to consider is the battery tender voltage. My car is Euro spec and I'm not sure if the battery tender works on both 120V & 240V.

    Anybody know?
     
  23. rockitman

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    I would imagine it is Euro spec and will be 220v. I would buy a new one from the LA dealer. One thing I am curious about...how are you going to register a euro spec car here in the US ? I was under they impression it cant be done for cars newer than 25 years old.
     
  24. Entropy

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    You can import a car into the US temporarily (eg. you are touring). I believe you need to post bonds, do the paperwork, et al, and the car then needs to leave (and you need to prove it). I am not an expert, but I know there were many Euro (and Asia) spec and registered cars that were imported for Cavalcade in SF last year, and for Monterey. Pretty routine; some folks just did the same, bringing their US-spec cars over to Europe for events.

    Way back there was a couple threads on a guy who imported his F12, only to have customs hold on to it...and then he was left to sell a Euro car in the US. Unsure what happened or how much it cost him in the end...

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ff-gtc4lusso-f12/391251-my-f12-has-arrived.html

    and

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ff-gtc4lusso-f12/402851-f12-berlinetta-sale.html

    Question for OP is what his plans/intentions are?
     
  25. rockitman

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    Thanks for that. Very informative.

    OT: Will Ferrari sell euro spec front and rear F12 bumpers ? I'm sure it would be quite expensive and one would need to find a good paint shop to paint them. I know the 458 Challenge bumpers euro spec can be had and fitted to US cars. What about the F12 ? The reflectors really do take away from the look of the car.
     

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