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Dino's at Monterey auctions 2013

Discussion in '206/246' started by jnk, Jun 17, 2013.

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  1. Dino246gts

    Dino246gts Formula Junior
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    Thanks for the follow up. Makes me kind of nervous to drive my car.
     
  2. dinogts

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    What is the basis for your assertion to "add 20% for an equivalent Euro model"? You really think a Euro model is worth $94,600 MORE (20% x $473,000 = $94,600) which would make the referenced RM Dino worth $567,600 if it were a Euro version?

    No Dino is quite worth that yet, certainly virtually no one in Europe would (or could) pay that for a Dino now - unless they are a parvenu/new money type of buyer (i.e. dumb rocker/rapper, or clueless potentate), the Chinese market doesn't care about older cars, and the Japanese appear to be out of the market right now.

     
  3. TonyJerseyUK

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    Your query would suggest you bought #06716 last month?
     
  4. TonyJerseyUK

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    My "assertion" would be the words in the brackets - ( page 207, Dino Compendium )... The accuracy or not is down to the view of the reader. Knowing Matthias and his vast knowledge of anything and everything Dino, I'd be inclined to believe that it's a reasonable assessment.
     
  5. silver1331

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    The first red dino GTS at Russo sold for 225k hammer, did anyone see the second one?
     
  6. freestone

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    Why so inexpensive, relatively?
     
  7. Jamie H

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    Then why keep it? Cash in now.

    No offense (and I truly do mean that) but I put 200km on mine today and I have insured for what I think its worth...so for me it doesn't matter.

    It is your car to do with it what you wish but did you buy it to enjoy it or as an investment?

    They are after all cars and ergo should be driven and enjoyed.

    Just washed mine and its drying in the driveway.

    Take it out and enjoy it !!
     
  8. TheMayor

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    #33 TheMayor, Aug 18, 2013
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    Hemmings has more Dino's than any other F car listed. Almost all auctions or dealers. I'm sorry but that doesn't say "rare" to me.
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  9. Pantdino

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    As long as you have your car insured for what it is worth it is irrational to be afraid to drive it.
    Actually the odds are that it would simply be damaged, so the actual value wouldn't matter unless the car were totaled. In which case you would probably be in the ICU yourself and the car would be the least of your worries.:)

    I think we are all very careful regarding other drivers when we take our cars out.
     
  10. Pantdino

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    Isn't this a market-related issue?
    Certainly Europeans might want to cut 20% off the value of a car if it has all the US junk on it, but I don't think many Americans would be willing to pay 20% more for a Euro car.
     
  11. TonyJerseyUK

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    I like that line of thought and logic! Laterally excellent! :)

    Does anyone know who bought #08518 btw? Continental Autosports in Illinois had it on their pitch for a long while, but the very last built Dino has now gone (such a shame it wasn't a Euro car) :-(
     
  12. TonyJerseyUK

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    I beg to differ. Care to give me your valuation of #00810? I'll certainly pay £500k (circa US$783k) for it in a nano-second, and I'm damn sure there are people out there who would go much higher!

    Unfortunately, two experts have told me that a) it's not for sale under any circumstances, and b) it's "missing"?!?!
     
  13. silver1331

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    i didnt get time to really examine it but it looked like a pretty decent car
     
  14. tx246

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    Yes, the person that bought it has been playing with Dino's for a while.
     
  15. Jamie H

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    +246
     
  16. HMB-Dino

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    RM Auctions:
    1974 246GTS #08500 Chairs & Flares, White/Red
    Estimated range: $350,000-400,000, SOLD $390,500 incl premium

    1974 246GTS #08274 Chairs & Flares, Black/Tan
    Estimated range: $375,000-450,000, SOLD $473,000 incl premium

    Russo & Steele:
    1973 246GTS #04870, US model, Red/Black
    No Estimated range provide, SOLD $225,000 + Premium

    Gooding;
    1974 246GTS #07808, US model, Red/Black, Campagnolos, 40.5k miles
    Estimated range: $350,000-425,000, SOLD $396,000 incl premium

    Bonham:
    1973 246GTS #6290, US model, Yellow/Tan Daytona, Campagnolos, 103k miles
    Estimated range: $250,000-300,000, SOLD $275,000 incl premium
     
  17. tx246

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    Anyone care to provide details as to the Russo and Steele result?
     
  18. Condor Man

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    The variation in prices is quite large...

    Why is that??
     
  19. TKO

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    Probably due to a large variation in condition ..... and options.
     
  20. Pantdino

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    #45 Pantdino, Aug 21, 2013
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    Here are some photos of the red one.
    Looks good in general but while I'm not the concours type I don't like the 308 wheels and more modern steering wheel. That and the poor door fit (both sides were like that IIRC), silver-painted-all-over engine, etc made me dislike the car.

    I got the feeling it was a driver level car that had been tarted up for sale and prefer an honest car that looks like it has been cared for consistently.
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  21. velocetwo

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  22. jnk

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    In my opinion the best buy was 08500. I looked at the car 18 months ago when it was in New Jersey. I thought the price at that time was high at $240000. It was a very nice car and very well documented, not the least it is one of the last 10 Dino's made
     
  23. Edward 96GTS

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    everyone at the event concluded that the bright green dino was the best in class. how did it place? 1st in class?
     
  24. HMB-Dino

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    Don't know...they didn't award Best In Class, but it was one of two awarded Platinum. The other one was the yellow GT euro model.
     
  25. Julius H.

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    #50 Julius H., Aug 25, 2013
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    Agree nothing special some missing original parts but looks quite ok in general.

    Not sure if it was full matching..?
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