Well Jon, you called it! There are a few crazies in your sale Funniest Dino sale so far. Best of luck! The car is simply fantastic, no way out, only a fool would not get it, aka the Castle fellow. Must be famous... Regards, Alberto
All the above is and has sadly been applicable to just about all vintage cars, not just Dinos) and their ownerships during past 4+ decades I’ve been involved with them pretty close to full-time. Nothing new or specific to younger generations (I’m of “Baby Boomers”). It is and has always been a quite small percentage of owners of vintage cars who actually drive/use/treat them as “cars”, rather than assets/investments, prestige/status symbols, etc., especially vehicles with higher perceived values. What percentage of participants of this thread or the entire FChat membership you think regularly drive their 50+ y.o. vintage cars (Ferraris), lets say more than a mere 1000 miles a year, and I don’t mean driving to/from or participating in some organized driving events for such vehicles ? One of the silliest/stupidest comment or phrase I’ve ever heard commonly expressed in this hobby: “Too nice to drive” !?! Next being “I don’t have time to drive it/them”.
I drive any and all, as much as I can. Best part, my kids love them and enjoy them too, and after all they do belong to them. Regards, Alberto
Well, lucky you. Since I don't have kids, I obviously must drive mine more before it's too late as I don't wan't to be on my deathbed thinking I should've driven them more. Full disclosure: I do have and have had few cars I wish I had driven more, but I'll try to make up for that indiscretion with others. Just this past weekend, I drove my '32 PB Roadster 435 miles to visit a friend and change oil + filters in his Daytona (although he paid me back with a nice dinner at a local steak house). On my way home I stopped to visit a new acquaintance to check out his Daytona, Dino and few other nice 2 & 4 wheel rides in his stable. We didn't get a chance to got out in any of them, but maybe next time... P.S. The last leg of my trip was almost surreal, as it was from Santa Barbara to Riverside and I encountered almost no traffic delays or slow-downs through L.A. I left S.B. at 6pm and it took less than 2.5 hours in a 92 y.o. hot rod, mostly on left lane and including one fueling stop, to get home.
And these no-bid morons are the ones asking owners to verify a bunch of stupid stuff (because they have never had two nickels to rub together they don't understand what is actually important). Then when the owner reminds them, they get all pissy and claim the owner is "hiding" something and talks down the car until the auction is over....because they have nothing better to do. I've seen the no-bid morons literally torpedo a couple of auctions lately by claiming cars in good working order NEED $100k services (these were not Dino auctions BTW). Single worst part about the concept.
The clowns claiming $x service needed think that every car needs to be a 100 point car. For those of us who own and drive the cars (I have a 246GT and a 456M GTA), most of the stuff claimed is "nice, but not essential" as a good Scot would say. I got a 456M GTA on BaT and have so far driven 5500 miles in it, adding over 50% to the total mileage. Aside from my fuel bill and a recent oil change, I have spent zero on it. It's in the garage, I drive it to Kroger to buy groceries, I travel between race meetings with it. It's a nice car so far.
Gentlemen. I believe we just benchmarked a no excuse, great color, Euro spec GT. I don’t know how any Dino could be any better than this one. Just spectacular. 04022 for $650k plus fees. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-ferrari-dino-246-gt-12/
With fees, Jon’s Dino was $657.5k US plus tax For what he does, that’s still an absolute bargain compared to new production cars. Corbani Dino is queued up and about to be back on BAT. Stickers are off and a nice subtle detail. As we all know, and absolutely fantastic Dino for the money.
As prices climb there are higher prices bring many Dinos with needs to market times. The price spread is great
Updating: I cranked past 10,000 miles now since acquisition, almost doubling its mileage. Still no obvious problems that I am aware of. I seem to average 75-80 mph per trip on long freeway drives.
Hello, I'm new to posting on FC. Can anyone tell me the best way to post a question about refurbishing the Dino mouse hair dash? I tried starting a new conversation, but it won't let me post it without putting participants in. I want as many people to see it as possible for the best possible response. A while back, I posted something about another Ferrari I own, & no one responded to the post. Sorry, if I'm interrupting this conversation, but I sure would appreciate the help getting my question out there, & hopefully, answered. Thanks, John J
Welcome to the forum. I hope you find it helpful. The place to start would be click on the 2 bars to the right of your name - at the top right of the window. Then click on Forums, and then on Search Forums. That will allow you to enter the topic you seek and provide a listing of previous threads. If you don't find what you are looking for, choose a threat and post a reply at the bottom to ask your question. That will start the conversation for you.
Thank you, Ken! While I'm at it, I'll push my luck, & ask my question here. I recently purchased a 246 Dino with the original mouse hair dash. While in good condition for its age, there are some water stains probably caused by the vent window leaking. Does anyone know how to remove the water stains without damaging the finish? I'm told by Chris Dugan of Dugan Enterprises in Oceanside, CA, who did the PPI on the Dino for me, that the dash is actually flocked vinyl. He is also looking into some solutions as well. According to Chris, the car is worthy of Classiche certification, so I want to keep the original dash yet have it look as pristine as possible. Thanks in advance for any insight on this.
Answer here, dampened with distilled water complete area https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/care-of-mousehair-dash.83398/
Thank you, Sergio! Although I read through most of the thread, I didn't see distilled water mentioned. I did see that sun fade & water stains are pretty common issues, so I'm hoping someone out there has come up with a proper fix. I've attached a pic of my dash, which I think is in pretty good condition except for the water stains, in case someone else has a solution. Thanks, again! Image Unavailable, Please Login !
Not a easy fix so my advice is to get it looked at professionally if you want to keep it. . My car had similar issues although not as bad and it couldnt be restored. In the end I replaced it but thats mission creep to restore the whole interior as one new item against old material looks out of place and is even more annoying!! You also need to treat the cause as the windscreen is (or was) leaking, remove and fit new rubber if needed. Watch out for corrosion if it has been leaking for some time. Best Tony
Thanks, TonyL. Chirs Dugan of Dugan Enterprises in Oceanside, CA is currently working on the car. He did a thorough PPI, & comes highly regarded, so I'm having him "fix" a lot of the items he noted on the PPI report. He is replacing the window & door seals, etc. He thinks the water came in through the vent windows not being properly closed at some point. He is looking into the best way to fix, or at least, make the water stains less noticeable. Chris is also a Ferrari Concours judge on the West Coast, & said exactly what you said, about replacing anything on the interior, which is all original, will disrupt the continuity of the car. Chris values originality over perfection, as do I, & would rather see "patinaed" OEM rather than over-restoration. So it's a balancing act because once all the details are corrected, the next step is getting Classiche Certification. Thanks, again.
Perfect, I would question the source of the leak though. Doubtful it came through the quarter glass seal. On my car and several others i have looked at they were all down to faulty windscreen seals. They mostly always leak from the top and pools at the bottom lip at the base of the screen (under the rubber) and then seeps through onto the dash material. A non setting buytl sealant can fix it if you dont want to remove the screen. Have a look under the dash and see if the carpet has signs of being wet or remove the gauge binnacle for a closer inspection. Did the centre tunnel come with tan vinyl originally? Most euro cars i believe were black
Depending upon where the car has spent it's life it may be more than a case of the vent window being the source of the leak. It sits someway behind the dash so would have required a fair amount of water to get in over time to cause a stain like that. This is the same area on one of my cars that had a badly stained original dash covering. Once the screen was removed the culprit was found, a disintegrating screen support channel. As Tony says the screens leak from the top and the water pools at the bottom and causes the lower corner section to rust away, unseen. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Not a bullish result: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-ferrari-dino-246-gt-18/?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=campaign_3530295
to TonyL: Thanks for the tip on the windscreen seal, I will let Chris know to check that, but I'm sure he probably already has. Chris said although this is a US Dino, it is fairly rare in that it is Marrone Metallizzato (according to the Dino Compendium, only 215 Dinos came in this color). And, the interior is all original in Beige 430 Vinylpelle/Skai per the Massini report, making it even more unique (see attached 2-pg PDF).
