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  1. miurasv

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    #76 miurasv, Apr 28, 2020
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    Source of the 4 cam figure?
     
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  3. readplays

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    Original source of 330 (+10 NART) was Cavallino Magazine many years ago- DWR, I believe.
    Since that time I've seen the 330 units bumped to 331.
    I have no knowledge of any credible source claiming a different number.
     
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  4. miurasv

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    Thanks, Dave.
     
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    Hey Rob, can you open a PM with me for a moment? Thanks
     
  6. readplays

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    Sorry to sidetrack the discussion, but to finish the thought- Cavallino #34. Story by Dyke W. Ridgely. Chassis numbers compiled by Gerald Roush and Hilary Raab. 330+10. Nowadays the number is 331+10.
    Back to Daytona values... ;)
     
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  8. rob lay

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  9. hagen111

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    Let me try to share my perspective:

    - Great story attached, well known car...its been covered in magazines, Chasing Classic Cars...worth a premium
    - Was very original, low miles timekeeper...worth a premium
    - Special colour...worth a premium.
    - Fantastic condition from what I can see.

    My estimate today, as a recent buyer...its a the right asking price at 695. 600-650 buying range, great deal.
    As for condition, irrespective of colour I would rate this as a 600k USD Daytona. Add to that premiums for story, special colour, low miles...and for the hartbeat and desire it creates (or not) when you see the car...and my guess is that for the right buyer 650k USD is a good price. Accordingly it may go up or down, but that is a different story.

    My reference for this car would be the blue Daytona that was recently for sale at Tom Harley Jr for GBP585k. Where I would personally prefer the 'Hemmings' example as it's lefthand drive.
     
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  10. Daytonafan

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    My perspective

    It has a story but being left neglected in a container for 30 years is not a great story to me but rather one of neglect. A car that has been used and loved (well maintained for its whole life) and has years of history is a great story IMO.
    The listing implies a lack of any real history (invoices service records etc) prior to 2011 so there is no way to guarantee the mileage in any way.
    Agree the paint colour is lovely
    It does look great in the photos and is supported by a Platinum award, but many cars do only to turn out to be not so great in real life, only a physical inspection by someone who knows Daytonas inside and out can establish its true condition right now.

    Also worth noting this has been listed for sale for sometime and has been sold at public auction at least twice the last in 2018 by RM when it sold for $775k all in.
     
  11. VinnieVintage

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    Thank you.

    So how close to "perfect" is this car? It looks like it has some minor paint issues. What else is holding it back -- the interior?

    What more would a "perfect" car offer?

    I appreciate your insights.

    VV
     
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  13. hagen111

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    Perfect is in the eye of the beholder...from my experience when I actually searched for one...

    - Perfect is how true it is to its original, how Ferrari created it, as to how it left the factory...
    -...which in the end...was not like a modern restoration...with shiny paint and all sort of improvements...this is another Perfect
    - Perfect by prospective buyer...the car you have always dreamt of, the colour you want, the story the owner Is telling you...a very subjective 'perfect'.

    When buying; just try to combine a bit of each...
     
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  14. Edward 96GTS

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    regarding the Hemmings daytona 14999 posted earlier, see before and after pix of color. the original dark egg plant color is as found in texas storage unit.
    pix courtesy of barchetta.com.
     

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  15. hagen111

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    These are photo's...hard to judge how actual in real life looks. Definitely the new paint is far more shiny wet paint...therefore will look different and much brighter.

    Second to that I would prefer to buy 'absolutely stellar colour' over 'closest to original colour'..provided it fits the car and period colours.
     
  16. Edward 96GTS

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    i saw that car in person at the mecum auction. circa 2012. those are definitely two different colors.
     
  17. donv

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    If it sells, then it is clearly worth it. If not, then it's over-priced for what it is. Simple as that. Has it sold at that price?
     
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    The car was displayed for sale by LBI at AACA Fall Hershey in October.
     
  19. Edward 96GTS

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    what are the driving dynamics of a 275 4 cam vs daytona?
     
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    Daytona are easy find in Europa around 500.000€ and probably less in next 6/12months...


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  21. hagen111

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    Can you share which 'easy' one?

    I tried...could not find one I liked for 500k...yes if you want a red one, yes if you want a normal old driver car...not what I wanted...
    Really nice examples for 500k...show us...
     
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  22. donv

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    I would be interested in hearing about this as well. I've driven a Daytona, and have tens of thousands of miles on my 365GT (which is actually fairly similar to the Daytona in typical driving), but have never driven a 275.
     
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  23. 375+

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    Colombo2cam is the man to ask.
     
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  24. colombo2cam

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    I have never driven a 275 GTB/4 if that is the comparison wanted. I was lucky enough to drive lots of F cars before they became as valuable as they are now but never a 4 cam 275
     
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  26. hagen111

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    I have to restate my opinion here. After reading the 'detail' on the LbiLimited page about paint finish and overall condition...about paint letting go, even though on a very small area, I would not not expect this on a freshly restored car that would all sorts of awards.

    So I probably was wrong in my assessment, although have not seen the car and have to go by description. I believe this one is overpriced and could be market down. Time will tell....
     
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  28. Edward 96GTS

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    just a few cars before mine so possibly an original pop up lights car? when was the change?
     

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