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Daytona Dashboard Removal

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  1. PDB

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    Hi,

    Is anyone able to advise on how best to remove the dashboard in a Daytona?

    I'm not very happy with the wiring or ventilation ducting, and the heater controls are very tight, so I'd like to get a clear view of everything, or would I be digging a hole for myself?

    Thank you,
    Paul
     
  2. swift53

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    Paul, it is the usual question, are you comfortable doing it?
    Then, you have the answer.
    Possibly take out the seats, the center console and put in a bunch of cushions to lie on,
    and strong lights. Then look from the bottom, and then decide which road you'd rather take.

    Regards, Alberto
     
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  3. PDB

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    Thank you Alberto, I’ll do exactly as you suggest.
    If I don’t sort out the niggles, they will forever bug me, so I may as well dive in and get them sorted and I’ll know it’s all good behind there.

    Paul
     
  4. gcalex

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    Hi Paul,

    I’ve been waiting to see whether anyone would give you a direct answer to your query about “how do I remove”?

    I always find it interesting that such queries usually get “crickets”; I can only assume that people don’t want to feel responsible i something goes wrong, or most folks just pay to have work done… :)

    I also want to pull my dash to recover it (it actually is in reasonable shape, but there are better “fur” reproductions these days), and made a similar query some years ago; and again, got crickets.

    There is this post about the dashes on Dinos , and one would think that the Dino and Daytona are similar: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/142255279/

    We’ve still got a few weeks of driving weather here in NorthEast USA, so I don’t want to take things apart at the moment, but I can poke around with my borescope and let you know what my impressions are.

    — Alex
     
  5. PDB

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    Thank you Alex, that would be useful. Just knowing where the fixings are would be a big help.
    Paul
     
  6. gcalex

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    The screws at the left and right are at the top of the forward door jam; looks like my car was painted with the dash still in, so mine are painted, though I suspect they should not be:
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    Under the dash, these screws look like this:
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    I don't see any screws at the center, and if there are any, I don't see how one could get to them without pulling the air-distribution box at the top center of the dash.

    There is also no evidence of the air-distribution box being glued to the dash; there is just a big rubber gasket that the dash presses against.

    I also looked to see if maybe there were screws that were accessible through the dash vents, or from the engine-side of the firewall, but did not find anything like that.

    What I did find were metal tabs/fingers that it looks like they are supposed to hold the front edge of the dash against the bottom of the windshield. No fasteners seemed to be in evidence:
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    My impression is that if you remove the screws at the left and right, and detach all the levers/switches/instruments the dash would just come-out if you pulled it toward the driver/passenger, but I can't say for sure.

    Before you ask, this is how the levers look from the back:
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    Pulling the bolts to free them looks like a painful job with the dash in place. It might be easier if you free the dash first, and pull it forward a little to get more working room.
     
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    Two slot screws on left vertical inside door jamb as shown and two on rhs then center foam around top vents.
    On the Daytona these screws are not painted from factory
     
  8. PDB

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    I can confirm that removing the four bolts (two either side) that go through the door jamb allow the dashboard to come out. The metal tabs simply support the front edge of the deshboard.
    However, I would also recommend removing the steering wheel and the two bolts that hold the steering lock assembly to the dashboard frame and allowing said assembly to drop (you can slide one of the bolts back into the lower frame holes, but through the upper hole in the steering lock assembly to support it in a lower position) to give you more room.
    You will probably want to remove the instrument panel first. If you remove any cable ties, you should have plenty of free length to allow decent access.
     
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    Alex, do you know what the grey and black wires in the left of the picture of the rear of the levers are for? These appear to be the ones that haven’t been connected to anything on my car.
    Paul

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  10. turbo-joe

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    may be for an electrical antenna?
    but I wonder about the grey cable because it is splitted
     
  11. Colombo1

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    Glove box light?
     
  12. TTR

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    Possibly for the small lamp(s)* illuminating heater control levers ?

    *Seems some (early) cars had none, some (mid-production) cars had one & some (late) car had two.
     
  13. PDB

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    That’s an interesting possibility Timo because I had been wondering about those lights.
    My car doesn’t have any and there are no signs of any holes in the back of the dashboard.
    I have tried looking for decent pictures to see what they look like. Would you have any available that you could share?
    I’ll connect the battery and put a meter on them to see if there is 12v when the lights are on.
    Thank you,
    Paul
     
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    I probably have some photos, but no access to any quickly.
    OTOH, you seem to have a basic idea how figure out the wires, although even simple test light can reveal same results.
    If they’re intended for my suggested purpose, I’d expect one to provide power & the other providing earth/ground.

    P.S. Have you by chance been able to determine if the dash in your car is the same it originally came with ?
     
  15. gcalex

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    On my car there is a grey/black pair that go to the glove box light.

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    No way to know for sure if these are the same s Paul’s wires...
     
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    Can you see where does the other end of the grounding (black) wire attaches to ?
    In most cases I’ve seen the glovebox lamp is grounded through the glovebox metal case itself andor one of the metal support brackets for it and not through any wire coming from the harness.
     
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    No, tracing things with that camera is hard, and I’m not that curious/motivated... :)
     
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  18. PDB

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    Ahhh..that is interesting and they look like they could be the same wires. My car didn't have a glovebox light and I have now installed a 12v socket into the hole in the glovebox side. Does the light have a built-in switch like the footwell lights?
    The black wire on mine disappears into the loom and I have no reason to believe that my dashboard isn't original.

    Thanks,
    Paul
     
  19. gcalex

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    Yes, same sort of light-with-built-in-switch. I've never checked whether it is the exact same size or not...
     
  20. PDB

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    Judging by your picture and the hole size in my glovebox, it probably is the same unit. Do you have any idea what else they might have been used on?
     
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    Addendum/correction/edit:
     

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