CS or 360 engine symbol flashing?

That means that you have something going on in the engine that the computer has senced and stored in the Electronic Control Unit. Since you have a 360 I'm guessing that it is still under warranty. SO, I would take it to the shop and have them pull the code/s stored in the ECU. Or if you can pull the codes yourself. Naw, take it to the shop and have them pull the codes, that way when they find out what it is you can get it fixxed on their bill. You have the warranty so use it, thats what it is for. Especially since the car is new. You shouldn't be getting any problems at all, so take it to them and have them find and fix the problem.

 

I feel your pain. There really is no excuse for it. The cars should be bullet proof.

 

First- how do you read the codes yourself?
Second, I had the engine warning light on in my street car after using 100 octane gas for 2 days. apparently this confuses the sensor. They just cleared the fault and no further problems. Is it possible to clear faults yourself?

 

Any time Watt.

Hey Solly

They sell OBD2 readers that can pull and clear the codes. I think they cost $120 or something like that. I have seen them at Sears.

 

The CEL(check engine light) can go on for a variety of reasons, ex. not putting the gas cap on tightly. You might as well face it, even after spending $200K you may have a few bugs that'll have to be worked out. Just part of the territory. If it's a PITA to take it over, have the service guy arrange to pick up and deliver the car on a flat bed. Make a list of all things that may need to be looked at and eventually you'll have a perfect car

 

Actually, this does happen with Porsches... and BMWs... but ONLY newer ones... this is an OBD II phenomenon... the government emission regulations demand all kinds of checks on the emissions equipment... and if a temporary fault is found (such as no temperature drop from the exhaust before the cats to after, which happens when the cat is not working or has been replaced with a straight pipe), then it records a code and the Check Engine Light will stay on until you get the problem checked.

Emissions regulations! And we still have commercial trucks driving down the road pouring out more emissions than 100 of our passenger cars... argh.

 

Ferrari do ECU's that ignore all the emissions data. I have never had the CEL since fitting them and also find the low-range pick up to be much better!

 

Brian, where can I get the ECU's you mentioned?

Second-does anyone know if the BBS rims on Challenge cars are the same width as those on the road cars? (7.5 front, 10 rear). Challenge slicks are wider..

Third- I have been searching the Internet for days for slicks for the 360CH. Can't find any that match the specified Challenge size (235/645/18 front, 295/645/18 rear- translates to approx 235/40/18 and 295/32/18). Even Pirelli doesn't advertise them anywhere. Closest I found was Hoosier with a 235/40/18 front but a 305/680/18 rear which seems ok since wheel diameter would be almost identical to stock (26.7 inches) but i don't know if 305's will fit the BBS rims. Any help would be appreciated.

 

Also- the OBDII device would check and clear only emissions-related problems, right? It is in no way a replacement for the SD-2?

Sorry, I've got all this free time now and want to DIY as much as possible instead of making our dealers richer (even though I like some of them).

Any courses I could take on Ferrari maintenance? If I went to the factory for a course would i have to learn Italian?

BTW, an acquaintance in Europe can provide SD-2 units at $17,000 each, shipped. Anyone have an interest in pooling some dough and sharing this unit? It's not like you need it every day. However, I was told last week that SD-3 is coming out real soon, so SD-2 might be obsolete.

Sorry for the long runing posts. It's 3 AM and I can't fall asleep.

 

Izza mentioned those, not me. (Or is Izza's name Brian also?)

I thought the BBS rims on Challenge cars were the wider Challenge rims... so, I guess I'm clueless there. FWIW, I know some autocross friends have said that much wider wheels will fit comfortably on the 360.

Check out www.tirerack.com... find the precise Hoosiers you're referring to... go under "specs" and it will list the min and max rim widths that the tire will fit on. My guess is that they will fit fine on the rims... my worry would have been diameters... but you say those are right.

 

The generic OBDII device lets you deal with the generic codes... but does little to nothing with the manufacturer-specific codes... and Ferrari has a bunch of Ferrari-specific codes... that's where you need the SD2.

Well, the SD2 will still work just fine (forever) on all existing cars... but when SD3 cars start coming out, then you'll need an SD3 to work on those cars.

 

Solly

I used to have the challenge wheels on my spider and they are the same size as the standard wheels. They are significantly lighter so i found it much more relaxing on long drives and on track. There was a slight increase in vagueness around the straight ahead but got used to that within a few miles.

ECU's can be got from Scuderia systems (you have PM on this).

As for slicks I didn't ever look into these but had real difficulty searching for CS tyres once I swapped my challenge wheels for a set of CS rims. I found that searching pirelli's main site was no use. Check out www.pirellicompetizioni.com. That has the competition dealers on who helped me. They may be able to help on the slicks.

Izza

 

Solly, you've got your tyre sizes messed up. The fronts you have written correctly, but the rears are 295/680/18 not 295/645/18

Anyway, ignore those sizes as they're for one make challenge racing only. They are supposed to be D3 compound too, which is quite hard and durable.

For private track days and any other non control series, you'll go much better or 245/645/18 in D5 front, and 305/680/18 Rear, in D5 all round for best speed/durability but a D3 Rear if it's REALLY hot (amb 30+ track 40+). (You can get sticky D6's too if you really want, but the rears will be toast after 150km/5 cycles and the fronts have a soft side wall and tend to roll around a bit too much.)

They'll bolt straight on with no clearance/size issues too. And if you're really lucky your Pirelli supplier will let you have some of the GE spec GT race tyre for the rear......

For a wet option, get the 305/690/18 W6 and not the 305/660/18. The 690 is much grippier.....

 

what type of tires did you find/use? - anything different than the PZero Corsa System 19'?

 

thomas- haven't had a chance to look yet. spent all day getting the trailer ready and loaded for Pocono this weekend. I'll let you know what I find.

Ferrarifixer- I got the rear 360 challenge tire dimensions right off FerrariWorld's website (Ferrari Spa), at: http://ferrariworld.com/FWorld/fw/index.jsp

Guess they made a mistake. It did seem strange that the rears would be so much wider than the fronts with the diameter not changing. I am going with your recommended sizes. Any recommendatrions on manufacturer? The Pirelli slicks are excellent but wear quick and are mucho $$$.

 

Izza- thanks. Is Scuderia systems in the US or abroad? Got a phone number? What ecu am i looking for? Thanks

 

For Challenge slicks I would contact Bob Woodward at Bob Woodward tires. He is the "official" supplier for the Challenge Series and should have plenty in stock.

Scottie

 

I have gone for the PZero Corsa system 19" and love them. I have seen Continentals on a 360 with 19" rims but didn't look into the widths etc. to do a full comparison.

 

Pirelli are the best all round tyre......Michelin and Dunlop do a good tyre but the set up requiremnts differ greatly.

Pirelli for me, Michelin if the Pirelli guy gets greedy though.......

 

yes since it controls the air/fuel mixture - depending on the error code exchanging left & right air flow meters is a good first try to isolate a problem