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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by LMH, Feb 26, 2020.

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  1. KarlA69

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  2. racerdj

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    I'm not surprised by this hold.
     
  3. Jordan68

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    We just need to wish everyone to be safe and healthy... The situation is tough everywhere specially in Italy

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  4. F140C

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    I get your point. There are dozens and dozens of people around me at work, all sharing the same, closed spaces and breathing the same air as me.. the risk is still very much there, as It would be in a bar or a restaurant. However, work isn't expendable and with some precautions, we carry on.

    Anyway, 2-weeks stop for Ferrari; QR says it's not Covid-related, but due to issues with the supply chains.

    https://www.quattroruote.it/news/industria-finanza/2020/03/14/coronavirus_problemi_con_le_forniture_si_ferma_anche_la_ferrari.html
     
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  5. BarryK

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    Two weeks are may be 500 cars worth of production. Combined with the big declines in the stock market that have been a big driver of wealth growth over the last decade, which presumably will hit new car demand, it might paradoxically partially address the Ferrari over-production that we have seen over the past couple of years. Might just be the only silver-lining in this crisis.
     
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  6. Scraggy

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    If you look at the objective of the closure - to reduce the rate of infection so that emergency services can cope with acute cases in parallel, there is not a joke that this is achieved in two weeks.

    I can’t begin to comprehend the economic harm and misery this is going to cause and wonder how social cohesion will be maintained.
     
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  7. noone1

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    Very significant difference actually. Restaurants bring people from many different groups together. Work places are all the same people every day.

    You want to limit contact to a small group of people, the same people. Restaurants and bars are all new contacts, changing constantly. An infected office worker could infect his 10 colleagues, but only his 10 colleagues since it's the same 10 people everyday. An infected person who works in a restaurant could infect hundreds or thousands of people and it would be impossible to track the exposure.
     
  8. FFantastic

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    There’s a reason Italy got hit so hard and particularly the north, but you won’t hear it in the mainstream media. From around 2010 Chinese companies started buying Italian fashion houses, not least because the Chinese middle classes so loved the Italian look. They needed to keep the coveted Made in Italy label for their output so, instead of moving factories to China, they moved Chinese workers to Lombardy and Tuscany (centred on Milan and Florence). Google it - New Yorker magazine said there was as many as 20000 in Prato, a tiny town in Tuscany. That was in 2013. There’s as many as 200000 in total in Italy today - possibly a lot more. And the Chinese fashion industry is based guess where? Yep, Wuhan - home of both the companies doing the buying and the cheap workers being shipped to work in sweatshops in Italy. Many would have returned home for Chinese New Year January 25th, just as the virus was ramping up in their home city, and returned with the virus soon after. As stated, you won’t hear this in the mainstream media - and I wonder how long this post will last. So we may not be in for an Italian scale crisis after all - that was due to very particular reasons.
     
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  9. Nospinzone

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    This is true.
     
  10. MDEL

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    I've wondered why in Italy the epidemic advanced so quickly and got out of control. Finally you present us a very good explanation. Thank you
     
  11. [gTr]

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    Globalisation, the gift that keeps on giving. I am not anti-globalisation but not assessing long term effects and tale risks to goose short term profits does not always lead to the greater good.
     
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  12. LVP488

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    France seems to be on the same path as Italy currently, and Spain is also hit very hard - so if the China connections may have hurt Italy first, European countries have strong Italy connections anyway...
    The concern is that in spite of the countries being hit one after the other, it's like the governments still do not have any clue about the appropriate responses.
     
  13. Elasto

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    just learned: Ferrari shuts down Maranello and Modena sites at least until March 27th.
     
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    Ancient. Methuselah reported it when he was 13.

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    Production halted until 3-27.
     
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  18. Elasto

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    ... but new to me. :p
     
  19. JTSE30

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    reference:
    https://www.ifpma.org/global-health-matters/flu-can-cause-up-to-650000-deaths-a-year-globally/

    please, sanity prevail now

    COVID19 is truly insignificant, and cases of mortality are linked/attributed simply due to presence of infection, not that it was actual cause of death.. this is particularly astonishing

    And total confirmed is severely under-reported, could be up to 50x more, consider that and mortality rate would be less 8/100s of 1% (or very close to seasonal flu, COVID19 is the flu, just a new strain)
     
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  20. PJ72

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    The superficiality of this post is astonishing and, together with the typical conspiratorial tone “you won’t hear it in the media” makes for even more compelling reading.
    Do you know where most Chinese in Italy live and where most of the clothing manufacturing is based? No? I thought so. It’s Tuscany. Where is the epicenter of the outbreak and the highest number of cases? Lombardy. Now, I know most Americans are challenged when it comes to geography but the two regions although not super distant are not even adjacent. So, as it is typical nowadays, somebody takes a couple of truths (it’s true there are many Chinese in Italy and it is true a lot of them work in fashion) and by combining them they try to define an extremely complex problem. Look, I am Italian and although I live in the US my whole family is barricaded at home near milano. This is no joke and although that is your personal opinion and you are entitled to it, to claim it’s the “explanation” is just dumb.



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  21. Cnoordz

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    So what you are saying is that it is normal for Italy around this period to be filled to the brink with intensive care patients, even overflowing to the point where doctors need to chose which patients could have the best chance of survival?
    Think before you write something please.
     
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  22. PJ72

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    If anybody is interested in serious reasons although this should remain a car forum, you should consider logical things like average age of the Italian population AND the fact that until a week ago the majority of the population didn’t believe that going out was a mistake and so, surprise surprise cases spiked like crazy. And guess what, this is exactly what’s about to happen in the US. I am not wishing it obviously but just wait and see. So much for the lower Chinese population here! By the way, you sure there aren’t more than 200k Chinese in the entire US?


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  23. Bundy

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    Back in my engineering and med school classes, we used to discuss costs related to risk reduction. Attorneys tend to think in terms of reducing risk to zero or nearly so, with little regard for associated costs or unintended consequences. Unfortunately, our governments are largely composed of attorneys, and even docs like Fauci (whom I respect tremendously) must abide by government concepts of risk reduction. The current overreaction is the inevitable result. Just look how easily they cancel school for the tiniest snowfall, or how the media and pllice can publicly denegrate a mother for daring to allow her 9-year-old child to play unattended at a park. Risks haven’t changed but our collective perception of, and tolerance for, them certainly has. Climate change comes to mind, as well.
     
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