Well Lucas is out of stock and dont know when they get more although they say they will get them in the future, whatever that means. Meanwhile can we order them from you if you have them? the first batch went in no time. What is the backlog? Why did Pirreli made such a smal run? did not they have the pre-ordr request? i mean I made mine but I get no tires as I am checking the pulse 24/7
Those tyres we have had were what they call a pre production. in that they make some, test them, then if all the testing goes well sometimes they allow the rest of the test batch to be sold while they find a space in the schedule to switch the machine on and make the proper batch, which is where we are at now. i believe the proper batch is going into production any day now. however it always takes a week or 3 for them to get to market. Also there aren't many machines that make tyres this weird size and shape small volume tyres, so there is half a risk that if something more important pops up then we go to the back of the queue again. However, all these little hurdles in mind i am on the case and will be keen to let you guys know when there is developments. my non committal hope is that they will be here in July. but i won't promise that, because their could be external uncontrollable influences. However in the mean time please entertain yourselves by watching my tyre safety film that i made with my wife
Well, just to be on the other side of thinking, because no one has questioned on the forum: what happens if the pre-production doesn't go well? And if it doesn't go well on those customers that are running it on their cars? They on there own? They out of luck if anything happens. I know usually, because they know how to make a tire, that nothing happens but......
Peter, I got mine fitted today, it was a momentous occasion for me, and I'm just so glad that Pirelli made these tires. Naturally, I too expect Pirelli know what they are doing, but I am especially grateful that they have offered pre-production sets for feedback. That speaks volumes, and in my mind by that gesture they are taking care of us by not assuming we will be happy with the tires. We are being given the opportunity at feedback, and I can tell you for me this alone places Pirelli in high esteem for me. Meanwhile lets not forget, some of these same pre-production tires have been fitted to Countachs and have already been road-tested successfully by experienced owners to positively reviews as posted both here and in the Downdraft thread. I'll test mine and report how it goes, good, bad or indifferent
When you say you will test them, do you mean a real measured track test or just a subjective road test on some back roads.Just curious
Since the Countach is essentially a road car and these tires were developed for the road, I plan on doing what Harry did by testing them on the road where they will be used. You can go back 2 pages and read Harry's reports here https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/145975057/ and https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/145978429/ Frankly, I was just hopeful that an experienced Countach owner would like them, but was pleasantly surprised to see him say this: Once I drove the Countach with the P7 fitted I could feel the difference straight away, the car immediately felt as if it was riding better on the P7, there was none of the 'squirm' I had felt when I first fitted a set of new P-Zero tyres. There was much less tram-lining apparent, which I guess must be something to do with the more rounded profile presenting less tread on the road when the car is running straight. I've only done around 200miles on them so far but now they are broken in, I want to try them on more demanding roads as I have a suspicion out-right grip might be lower than the P-Zero but I'm hoping the outer limit of grip is easier to read, which was another failing for me with the P-Zero Countach tyre. That said, I already feel these new P7 tyres suit the Countach better than the P-Zero, they feel 'right' straight out of the box, which is not something I felt with the P-Zero but I'll report more thoughts once I've put more miles on them. I found his reports to be both encouraging & helpful: I spent today driving my P7 equipped Countach on the more dynamic roads I use for most of my filming and I'm very pleased to report I like these new P7 even more today than I did before. My fear the grip levels wouldn't be there like before proved to be unfounded, I'd have to go on track to push any harder than I did today and yet the car didn't spring any surprises, understeer was minimal and reading what was happening at the tyre contact patch was much easier with these new P7 tyres than with the P-Zero tyres I had fitted previously. In fact, my Countach felt better dynamically today than it has ever felt before, which is such great news. In summary, these P7 tyres tramline less, ride better, deliver similar levels of grip but better feel than the P-Zero, which is a great list of attributes and a remarkable result for Countach owners. If you care about how your Countach drives, then I have no hesitation in saying these are the tyres for you, thank you to all involved in getting them back in production, us Countach owners should be most grateful. Everyone must decide for themselves about these tires, and I aim to find out if I concur Harry and if I notice anything different or additional that I can report. I also plan to continue to report on the tires as they wear in different conditions over time. BTW, out of interest, how old are the tires on your Countach, and, how often do you track it, if you do?
Update Thanks for the kind words above, Joe, I've done more driving on these new P7 tyres since the last update and they continue to impress. The car has also been driven extensively on track, testing it to its limits and beyond, as you can see from the attached photo. Tread depth is down to 3mm now, so I'm not far from having to replace them! Image Unavailable, Please Login More news soon..
Dougal, my brand new P7 tires finally went on today, pics to follow. I'll do the requested road-testing and submit the report for Pirelli. Love the safety film, incidentally, also love the one by Paul Woodford about your father-and-son adventures and the Frazer Nash. Once again, on behalf of all Countach owners who appreciate your efforts, thank you Dougal. Thank you for everything Harry, great news that they continue to impress, I plan on doing a long-term report, although strictly on the road where mine'll be used. Sorry I'm a bit late getting into this but all in good time, as they say.
Markings won't be there for too long, more pics in the Downdraft thread Image Unavailable, Please Login
Holy Harry Hard Driver, those were driven hard on the cornering dept.! Little scalloping going on, many heat cycles. Wearing quickly. How many miles or hours of hard driving?
The tires on my Countach are about three years old. No I dont track it. I do race Formula 2000 cars though, so I have no desire to drive a heavy street car with crap for brakes on the track.
My car is getting p7 this early fall, will undergo a small service and so on,this summer, then ready for fall with new shoes and brake pads, love some advice on wich pads work better on our cars.
New Pirelli P Zero on my Countach after 10 years . Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Mine are late 2006, sadly more of an age issue,than miles, but all good trouble free miles. Very exited about the P7 , Had a De Tomaso , Pantera in mid 80 s (gt5s) with 345 p7 rear and 285 up front, cool car,but no Countach, biggest let down, no rpm. Image Unavailable, Please Login
You asked me if I would be testing the new Pirelli Cinturato P7s on the track, I said no, your answer is exactly why.
I remember when the first Aventador showed up at our weekly car gathering and parked right next to me. Everybody was amazed at the differences in the brakes! Looking at the Countach with its BMW size ATE calipers and comparing them to the monsters on the Aventador that looked like they surrounded 1/3 the carbon fiber rotor was a sight to behold. Amazing what 40 years of technological advances get you. ;-) Mike Image Unavailable, Please Login