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Cost of full repaint ?

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  1. pegon

    pegon Karting

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    Thinking of buying a recent Ferrari, but in a offbeat color (grigo metallic) Of course this makes it difficult to find the right car, so i wonder what kind of number i am looking at for this.

    Living in Europe makes the absolute numbers from the USA different. However, a estimate of work hours and materials is non the less interesting.

    Anyone know ?
     
  2. V-TWELVE

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    #2 V-TWELVE, Nov 10, 2013
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    A lot of factors to consider, the biggest being how good you want the end result to look. Cost could be anywhere from 5K-30k. A complete colour change requires a lot of disassembly and prep work to be done correctly.
     
  3. pegon

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    So most likely 30k Eur, as i want it to be perfect. Thinking of a 16m, so no roof. Does this make a difference ?
     
  4. V-TWELVE

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    Not going to make much of a differance. The most important consideration is who will be doing the work. Make sure you find a shop that has a reputation for putting out excellent work always.
     
  5. Far Out

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    30k€?! I don't know where you are, but 10k€ gets you the best repaint there is here in Germany, and I doubt it's more expensive in the rest of Europe. A Ferrari may be a special car, but it's a car after all. No point in paying 200% extra.
     
  6. pegon

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    Thanks for the reply Far Out, as Germany is the exact country i am moving to in the next 3 months. Thanks also because 10k is in the doable category, and 30k is in the "never !"
     
  7. greyboxer

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    #7 greyboxer, Nov 10, 2013
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    Grigio is not offbeat and changing the color of a 16M is crazy - as a for instance the interior of the sealed lights are body color - its all but impossible to split them so thats half your budget for new lights
     
  8. V-TWELVE

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    But he's going to get it done in Germany which I guess is like Mexico is to the USA. LOL
     
  9. pegon

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    Well, Ferrari isn't known for great paint finish, that leaves me something to go on. The color to me looks a lot like grigo medio, but has some metallic flaking in it. Quite rare for the number of 16m's made.
     
  10. MS250

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    You need to define perfect now....

    1) factory perfect
    2) concourse perfect

    on a damage free, rust free car it will obviously be less...but 30k may not be enough if you start to scrutinize door jams, and wheel wells. It's not the paint , but the labour to get it effect without overspray. Think about all the trim, bolts, and moving parts. You may need more dough.
     
  11. mwr4440

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    Gents,

    In some cases Europe really shines against the ripp-offs for the same product in America.

    EVERYTHING there ain't the GREATEST.

    That is part of the reason I stay here.
     
  12. MS250

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    Cough cough .... Nobody is talking about rip offs...it's talking about quality of work.

    The OP said he wanted the car perfect, masking tape over the suspension and wheel wells is not perfection.

    Taking apart a Scud is complex work no matter where you are in the world , and putting it back together is even harder.
     
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  14. luvair

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    I paid about 35K USD for a respray and some "minor" body work on my 330 a few years ago. It took 3 months to get the car back as they disassembled as much as possible. Challenge is how much more money to "invest" once the paint is perfect, meaning what needs to be rechromed/ replaced to bring it up the new paint standards, including full originality. Then how about interior and mechanicals, it can go on and on, and take many months, perhaps years. Best is to determine your budget, speak with shops that have done work on many cars like yours, and develop a comfort plan.
     
  15. mwr4440

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    There is a difference between "restoring" and "over restoring."

    My dad's Model T Fords (a coupe and truck) are over restored, and therefore not worth nearly as much. But they are PERFECT.

    And that is the very problem.


    My 308 has paint runs for example. They all did. If I got a repaint I would want them put right back in.
     
  16. mwr4440

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    Yep. And in the USA you may be getting skunked on a repaint. I don't know.

    I do know you get totally F-ked on airplane tickets anywhere outside of the USA, in most cases. Americans do not know how to travel and the agents pick over your bones. Any European trips look seriously at "starting" in the UK.

    Not trying to be mean, just different things cost different amounts in different places.
     
  17. V-TWELVE

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    To replicate shoddy workmanship is just too funny. People that think good workmanship is cheap have likely never had good work done. And yes I think if you want runs in your paint you should not be paying very much.
     
  18. mwr4440

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    DO you want CORRECT?

    or,

    DO you want PERFECT?




    My Dad's cars are worth at least USD 10K LESS because they are PERFECT.

    No period car left Detroit PERFECT. Not one.



    So what do you want?

    An incorrect PERFECT car or a correct IMPERFECT car?

    Big difference.


    Eventually when they get old enough, runs and drips will matter.
     
  19. V-TWELVE

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    I don't think anyone will want to replicate the gouge in their dash leather like one fellow here has. But then again there are strange people out there. I think a car should be restored with care or skill that the union brother who built it did not have. Not over restored just have some skill and pride.
     
  20. 2NA

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    Get the best car you can afford but don't repaint a different color. It's a very involved process to do right and is bad for resale value.

    Consider getting a "wrap" instead of painting. The cost is far less and can be changed at will.
     
  21. PhilNotHill

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    ^^^^What he said.
     
  22. phrogs

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    Concours should be exactly like the factory put out. Otherwise it's over restored. The cars were not perfect when they leave the factory.
     
  23. pegon

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    Well, the finish i look for is "Porsche perfect" as in their cars tend to have good paint. Ferrari, as many know, still today, have less than desirable paint finish.
    The price difference between USA and Germany may be due to something i have observed over the years.
    American car lovers tend to be "car fetishist's" while Europeans tend to be car drivers.
    I remember when i joined this forum there were threads where owners discussed what brand diaper were best for polishing their obsession.
     
  24. jagmanv12

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    I got an estimate from the Ferrari approved paintshop in the UK for my E type. I've already removed all chrome, handles, etc. With me removing all the old paint and as long as they did not have to do any repairs their price was £7k.
     
  25. Far Out

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    Where are you moving to exactly?
     

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