Classic Car Emissions Testing Legislature AZ

from your friends in ca...we just had a rolling emisions rule eliminated a couple of weeks ago, I would start raising a stink early & often in az or you will have the same in no time

 

It's worse in AZ. 1967 model year or later needs to pass current smog test - impossible for older cars like Dinos and old carburreted 308's, boxers, Daytona's etc

 

If your older car only needs a hair to pass, try some rubbing alcohol in the gas tank... Or putting tiny jets in the carb. Alex, Very nice F40 you have!

 

I hope AZ gets a little wiser on this subject.They need a classic car exemption. I keep my classic's registered with my home in Illinois.The antique tags cost me $48 and no emmision testing!!

 

BTW,Illionois antique tags are good for five years.

 

The preliminary 106 page report is now available.

http://www.azdeq.gov/environ/air/vei/download/HB2501final.pdf

The bottom line is to NOT recommend the exemption. Looks like the only manner to adopt such an exemption is to reduce smog loading by implementation other restrictions. I vote for banning leaf blowers!

Here is the notice for the upcoming hearing:

To: Interested Parties
From: Nancy C. Wrona, Director Air Quality Division

Re: Meeting on Vehicle Emissions Exemptions for Motorcycles and Older Vehicles

You are invited to attend a meeting on Tuesday, November 23, 2004, at 1:30 pm, at ADEQ, in Conference Room 250, 1110 West Washington Street, Phoenix, Arizona to discuss the draft report on the technical analyses of ADEQ’s evaluation of the potential air quality impacts of exempting motorcycles, collectible vehicles and vehicles over 24 model years old from vehicle emissions testing. To review these materials please visit ADEQ’s Website at www.azdeq.gov. Under “Air Quality”, look for the material under “Quick Links” at HB 2501/HB 2294” or contact my staff, Mohan Toopal at (602) 771-2335. The deadline for submittal of written comments is November 30, 2004. Comments should be submitted to:

Ira Domsky,
Deputy Director, Air Quality Division,
Arizona Department of Environmental Quality
1110 West Washington Street
Phoenix, Arizona 85007

The Arizona Department of Environmental Quality (ADEQ) is required by HB 2501 and HB 2294 to submit a report to the Governor, the Legislative leadership and others by December 31, 2004 on this issue.

If you have any questions, please call Mohan Toopal at (602) 771-2335.
Free parking is available at the agency’s parking garage and can be accessed from Washington Street, just west of 10th Avenue.

 

That is very disappointing news indeed!

 

As someone who lived in the Valley for 31 years, I have been through this many times.

The problem is not the AZ government, but the Federal government that keeps threatening the imposition of sanctions (us not getting our roads money that we gave to them back) if we do not reduce pollution. Thus, the AZ government gets to sit around and try to figure out who they will piss off the least.

The main problem is twofold. One, is that it has been proven that particulate (dust) emissions standards cannot be met in the Valley. In the middle of the Sonoran desert................ miles from any civilization............ particulate emissions are too high. Thus, the only way to actually solve the problem would be to pave/concrete the entire desert. Not gonna happen. Two, we have a massive influx of winter visitors who do not have to meet our emissions standards in any way. Thus, there is no way to control their vehicles. When you consider the size of the snowbird population in AZ, you are talking about many 10's of thousands of vehicles.

Thus, the Valley will continue to give the Fed gov't feel good regulations that will appease them for the time being. Hopefully someday, the Feds will realize that what works on the East Coast, does not work in the desert.

However, this is the Fed gov't we are talking about............ so they will never learn.

 

Pietro that is great news!!
Let us know when it gets signed.

 

Section 49-542, Arizona Revised Statutes, as amended by this act, does not become effective unless on or before July 1, 2009 the United States environmental protection agency issues a vehicle emissions testing exemption for motorcycles and collectible vehicles in area B and for collectible vehicles in area A for purposes of the state implementation or maintenance plan for air quality.


Who knows how long the EPA will take? I have no idea of EPA's history ruling on such matters.

 

2009!!!

 

The next chapter. Things are moving along as planned with the SIP to be handed over to the EPA in December. Then we wait. The earliest exemption is January 2007, but likely to be mid-2007 if approved.
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Pietro, great news!!!

Now if we can keep the AZ law makers from screwing up our wine commerce laws, this might become a more civil place to live.

 

Ok, what are the rules governing "collectable" car insurance? I get different quotes and rules from every insurance company I call about that. It was just better to let Gieco insure it as a regular car then pay an armed guard to watch it whenever I left the house.

 

Here is the proposed text. I'm not certain that it survied in the original form:

A vehicle is a collectible if it:

1. Bears a model year date of original manufacture that is fifteen years old or
older.

2. Is of unique or rare design, of limited production and an object of curiosity.

3. Is maintained primarily for use in car club activities, exhibitions, parades or
other functions of public interest or for a private collection and is used only
infrequently for other purposes.

4. Has a collectible vehicle or classic automobile insurance coverage that restricts the collectible vehicle mileage and requires the owner to have another vehicle for personal use.”

 

Well, I guess that means I won't be buying the test pipes and air injection plugs and I'll have to continue to tweek the carbs. Rats! I like to drive my Classic Ferrari, not just show it off at shows so no collector insurance for me.

 

I doubt you would get scrutinized if you registered as such regardless of how much you actually used it.