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  1. Flash G

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    CHP will no longer issue 11-99 plates:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-frames27-2008sep27,0,4664486.story


    Can a license plate frame get speeding drivers off the hook?
    Some members of the 11-99 Foundation say they've gotten warnings from CHP officers instead of fines for violations. The foundation denies seeking undue influence but will stop issuing the frames.
    By Christian Berthelsen, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
    September 27, 2008
    It was the kind of move that would usually mean a ticket for a young guy in a tricked-out BMW: unsafely zipping around a truck and another vehicle -- which happened to be a CHP cruiser -- while zooming down the road.

    But rather than getting slapped with a fine last year on U.S. 101 south of San Francisco, Nick Palefsky was let go with a warning.


    "He said, 'Next time, be a little bit more cautious,' " Palefsky recounted in a recent interview. It was one of four occasions in the last three years in which Palefsky, 22, said he was stopped by California Highway Patrol or local police officers; only once did he receive a ticket.

    Palefsky believes a license plate frame proclaiming membership in the California Highway Patrol 11-99 Foundation helped him avoid the tickets.

    The foundation, based in Fullerton, draws its name from the emergency police radio code for "officer needs assistance." It has taken in millions of dollars in tax-free donations for more than 25 years and used the money to aid families of CHP employees.


    For $5,000, donors have received the license plate frame as well as, until recently, a brass identification card bearing a small star similar to a CHP badge. The group says neither one was intended as a way to get out of tickets. But Palefsky is hardly the only one who believes they function that way.

    The frame has been called "the ultimate speeding ticket solution in California" on an online Mercedes-Benz chat board. And recently, the frames have been popping up for sale on Craigslist and EBay, for $250 to $1,000. The resales have angered the foundation but it has so far been unable to stop them.

    "There's definitely a perceived benefit, as well as a real benefit," said one online seller, who asked that his name not be used. "There's this real tangible benefit of possibly getting favorable treatment from a CHP officer."

    In response to inquiries from The Times, CHP Commissioner J.A. Farrow looked into the matter and was "surprised" and "bothered" by what he found. Farrow, who took over the top spot at the agency this year, said he was concerned that the frames were creating a perception that 11-99 membership results in beneficial treatment from officers.

    He issued an agency-wide memo this month reiterating the CHP's policy against giving anyone special consideration, and strengthened it by adding: "CHP personnel shall not honor nor recognize any form of communication which purports, infers or extends a privilege or immunity" from enforcement of the law.

    He also took his concerns to the foundation, whose board voted last week to stop issuing the frames by January.

    Farrow said he remains supportive of the foundation's work, and the CHP's website maintains a prominent link to the group's home page.

    With the money it has raised, the 11-99 Foundation has helped thousands of children and spouses of CHP employees pay for college, provided immediate cash assistance to families of officers killed or injured in the line of duty, and offered all manner of support when agency employees or their families have suffered from prolonged illnesses or other misfortune.

    The foundation's leaders say the license plate frames have been a vital marketing tool in raising money for those efforts. There are several thousands of the frames on cars cruising California's streets and highways, and they are often the most exotic autos on the road: Aston Martins, Lamborghinis, Land Rovers and top-of-the line BMWs, Mercedes-Benzes and Audis.

    Edward Trickey, the foundation's president and chief executive, said the group has taken steps to reduce the risk of members expecting a break on the road, such as raising the minimum donation necessary to receive a frame, conducting background checks on potential members, terminating membership of donors who try to abuse their privileges and specifying on the application form that membership does not buy "leniency."

    Trickey said he has received three tickets in the time he has worked for the charity. "It clearly has not gotten me out of tickets," he said. "And that's not why I put it on my car."

    The brass identification cards were issued with wallet-style holders. The foundation's board voted in May to stop giving them out, after the state attorney general issued an opinion last year saying that issuing official-looking badges is a violation of state law.

    The opinion was prompted by several incidents in which politicians such as county sheriffs gave honorary badges to campaign supporters.

    There's no definitive way of telling how many people -- if any -- have been let off the hook because of their foundation membership. But several members said in interviews and Internet postings that they believed their 11-99 identification had gotten them out of what would otherwise have been an expensive lesson to slow down.

    Carroll Shelby, the legendary race car driver and auto designer who has homes in Bel-Air and Las Vegas, told the Globe and Mail in 2006: "I'm a member of 11-99. I have a thing that gets you out of tickets. . . . Unless we run over a kid in a school zone doing 40 to 50 miles an hour, they usually let us go."

    On an Internet chat board in 2005, a BMW enthusiast identifying himself as "mottati" said: "I've been a lifetime member for five years and have not gotten a ticket since. Been pulled over a couple times, but let off."

    Parviz Firouzgar, a mortgage company owner from San Juan Capistrano, joined the 11-99 Foundation last year after learning of it through a club of Lamborghini drivers that he rides with.

    He said that he joined because he supports law enforcement and that he never would use his membership status to try to get out of a ticket.

    "The only thing you're entitled to is good feelings," Firouzgar said in a recent interview.

    After he joined the foundation, Firouzgar said, he was pulled over by the CHP on the 101 Freeway in Hollywood while driving his Mercedes 10 mph over the speed limit. The officer ultimately decided not to issue Firouzgar a ticket. The car did not have an 11-99 frame on it, but afterward Firouzgar told the officer about his membership in the foundation. " 'Now I feel doubly good about giving you a break today,' " Firouzgar recalls the officer saying.
     
  2. plugzit

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    How sad....somebody whines that "it's unfair" and the 11-99 loses.
     
  3. bobafett

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    What bothers me is a 22 yr old had them. When I was 19 and it was like $1200, I was told you had to be 25. WTF
     
  4. Senna1994

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    Too bad these young Putz's like that Nick ********* ruin it for everybody else.
     
  5. luv2detail

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    ...There are several thousands of the frames on cars cruising California's streets and highways, and they are often the most exotic autos on the road: Aston Martins, Lamborghinis, Land Rovers and top-of-the line BMWs, Mercedes-Benzes and Audis....

    Well, 2 outta 6 ain't bad.:D
     
  6. OC Speed Junkie

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    That is what I encountered as well a few years ago when I was looking into joining.

    Based on a public article like this, I makes sense that the 11-99 organization had to do some kind of damage control. As I recall the last time there was a negative news article on them they removed the a lot of the application information on the their website.
     
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    #7 RacerX_GTO, Sep 28, 2008
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    The truly stupid ruin it for everyone.

    There is still one more "item" out there for a select group. I've only seen this one time, but it's nothing you can get through an org such as the 11-99 Foundation. How you get it, is not widely known and you can be sure no idiot 22 yo punks like Nick what's-his-nuts can get it.
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  8. ferrari.ace

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    That reminds me more of something my Mom use to roll around with back in the late '60s to mid '70s when my Dad was a CHP officer.
    My Mom was involved in the Oldschool 11-99 foundation. The purpose was the same but the name was , "Mothers of the Road"!

    Hey! it was the '60s! Go Go Boots, Hot pants, hippies!! It was a great name for the time.....

    Wonder if it would help if I had a "Mothers of the Road" plate frame to go with my 11-99 badge????
     
  9. jlonmark

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    I have afew old ones sitting around.... maybe for sale.............
     
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    #11 dromer, Sep 29, 2008
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    quote in the LA times by Carroll Shelby

    " Unless we run over a kid in a school zone...they usually let us go."

    Nice.... Real nice So now im going to start getting tickets BECAUSE i have an 11-99 membership plate.
     
  12. TopElement

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    What a load of crap. If it's at an officers discretion to write a citation, then he should be able to not give one. Don't see anything unfair about it.
     
  13. TG

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    If the CHP was so troubled by these ebay auctions, wouldn't they pony up the $ to buy them?

    Different scenario.. but when dealers of Burton started reselling to Costco all across the nation, Burton had all their sales reps go in and buy every last item. Half a million worth. Inventory/ damage control.
     
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  15. s4dustin

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    what about all the stickers you see on cars then..they suggest some type of association with the law?
     
  16. dromer

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    Yes the foundation recognizes the problem and will provide " theft resistant " fasteners
     
  17. s4dustin

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    when i put mine on, i put locktite on the screws.
     
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    I bought bolts that need a special wrench in order to be removed.
    Never have to worry.
     
  20. sparetireless

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    This guy should be a spokesman for the organization and prudent driving, what's wrong with him?
     
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    Never can tell. The quote may have been taken out of context. But... The way the LA Times presented it he is not doing the Foundation or his reputation any favors. I wonder if he ever considered that he may have been given a pass because he was Carrol Shelby and not Joe Citizen.
     
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    All this bad press... I'm considering taking mine off. Keep the ID card though.
     
  25. Flash G

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    True.

    I have a question though...

    I've seen some plate frames that say "11-99 Foundation" on the bottom of the plate frame and some that say "CHP 11-99 Foundation". Which one is legit?
     

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