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Ceramic brake pads on steel rotors??

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  1. SCKOMS

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    Happy New Year everyone!
    I'm looking for low dust alternatives to stock brake pads for my 2006 430 spider with steel rotors. Any issues running ceramic pads on steel? Any other recommendations for low-dust pads?
     
  2. Tally Ho

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    No issues. I'm running EBC pads on my 07. The amount of dust is cut in half and what dust you do get is grey instead of black. I've been running ceramic pads on my Corvettes with steel rotors for years and also on my Avalanche DD with no issues at all.
     
  3. SCKOMS

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    Thanks for the response. Have you seen any degradation in performance (street use)?
     
  4. bocaf430

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    good to know this can be done.... never heard of this... great news
     
  5. tazandjan

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    Note those are ceramic pads designed to work with steel rotors, not CCM pads, which are completely different shape and much larger than the four piston pads. Hopefully everybody already knew that and I am wasting my time.
     
  6. 808Forza

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    Bill, thanks for the input. Which EBC pads are you running and how many miles have you got on them?
    My past experience with EBC is a slight squeak when cold.
     
  7. bocaf430

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    yes I knew they are not the same pads for the ceramic rotors,..thanks
     
  8. Tally Ho

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    I'll PM you the part numbers this evening. I had some squeak during bed in but no noise now. I have about 1K miles on the pads.
     
  9. SCKOMS

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    When switching from OEM pads to ceramic, do you sand the rotors to remove the bedded in material? The pad change, from what I understand is relatively easy so I plan to DIY it.
     
  10. Tally Ho

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    I just wiped the rotors down with brake cleaner before installing the new pads. The pads are super easy to change. There are two drift pins in each caliper. Just drive them out with a punch, slide the old pads out, compress the caliper pistons, install new pads, re-install drift pins. It too more time to get the car in the air and remove the wheels than it did to replace all of the pads.
     
  11. whatheheck

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    Dont forget to properly bed in your brakes after brake pad replacement. Very important to do.

    Dan
     
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    Does this bedding in procedure apply to ceramic pads?
     
  14. stevecomp

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    ceramic race pads are already to go, they are done on a brake dyno before packing them in the box.
     
  15. Need4Spd

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    #15 Need4Spd, Jan 7, 2015
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    Bedding is not so much for the pads as for the rotors. The idea is to transfer a thin, even layer of pad material to the rotors. The article I linked to itself has a link to another article explaining this.
     
  16. whatheheck

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    Exactly!

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  17. SCKOMS

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    I called the Zeckhausen tech support line and they recommend the same bedding in procedure for the "ceramic" pads.
     
  18. whatheheck

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    Excellent!

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