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Carrozzeria VIGNALE - Ferraris bodied by Vignale

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Marcel Massini, Dec 14, 2008.

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  1. mont

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    No.
    This 250 MM is probably in its original configuration and probably in Switzerland or California.
    Could the great M. Massini help on this one?

    Thanks,
     
  2. ivo73

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    According to Marcel Massini's Book "Ferrari by Vignale" on page no177,this is s/n 0330 MM .

    Ivo
     
  3. Ed Niles

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  4. ColdWater

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    Sold by Paul Forbes about a year ago. Extremely original.
     
  5. Boudewijn

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    Ed, this was Rodeo Drive 2006.
    Best
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  6. Randy Forbes

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    You'd have thought he could leave it in the family...
     
  7. John Vardanian

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    Ed, this is the only Ferrari I've seen with vinyl interior. Is there a story?

    john
     
  8. ColdWater

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    Interior looks like leather to me, but according to Prunet (p. 58) the roof was originally covered with vinyl (?!).
     
  9. Ed Niles

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    #409 Ed Niles, Feb 6, 2009
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    It was not that unusual for Ferrari to use vinyl for the interior. For instance, 0425GT, that great PF prototype of the TdF's, originally had red vinyl with white piping, although Walt McCune (against my advise) chose to use leather when he restored it. As far as tops are concerned, the 50's were an era of phony convertible tops, and when I had 0359GT it was all resale red, and I treated it to a paint job that I thought would minimize its rather large size, with a vinyl top, as early pix show it with either vinyl or white paint top.
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  10. John Vardanian

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    The vinyl in 219EL, unlike the vinyl in your Miura or Jaguar, doesn't try to mimic the natural leather grain. It let's you know right away that it's not leather. Seems Vignale was trying to introduce a new concept, and along with what Ed said, it would be unwise to switch to conventional material when restoring the car.

    john
     
  11. ColdWater

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  12. Jeff Kennedy

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    So I was a late adopter in getting an original printing of Marcel's Vignale book; please forgive me. Anyway, just finished reading it on a long airline flight.

    Marcel: Are you planning to do a revision to the book or make available a revision supplement of information and update of history from the original printing?

    Jeff
     
  13. dretceterini

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    There was a reprint done around 2005. I only have the original, so I don't know if the reprint is updated.
     
  14. Jeff Kennedy

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    Mine is the softcover 2005 reprint and it stops information in the early 1990s. That would be consistent with the original copyright of 1993.

    I have a small suspicion that there are additional discoveries, correction of facts and certainly change of ownerships in the intervening 15 years. It might not warrant a complete revision/reprint but a published addendum might be in order.

    Jeff
     
  15. ColdWater

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    If you liked the Vignale book I would emphatically recommend "Making a Difference" by Anselmi/Massini. Still a few copies available at Ferrari Market Letter and worth every penny.

    It contains no ownership information, but even Barchetta.com doesn't seem able to keep up with that.

    Don
     
  16. Jeff Kennedy

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    Already have it.

    Jeff
     
  17. scuderiafan

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    I did not take any pics but there was one owned by Ron Tonkin at the Portland auto show this weekend. It was a 2 tone red and black coupe. I was located in the 100 years of automobiles room.
     
  18. ColdWater

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    0271EU. Batmobile.
     
  19. thecheddar

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    Hope this isn't off topic:

    I've been admiring and reading about Vignale's for years but, to my recollection, I've never heard the pronunciation the same way twice! My inner voice says "Veen-yal-eh" but I'm curious if someone would correct me. Thanks!
     
  20. AYMAMI

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    #420 AYMAMI, Feb 11, 2009
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    Hello!

    This is my first post. Thank you for allow me.

    Long time ago I found this picture somewhere in the net. I apologyse don't know the author. Can sombedy help me to identify the vin?
    Any other pics?

    The correct pronunciation is more or less as you say. Just the "GN" in italian like in french like the potuguese NH the spanish Ñ or catalan NY. But is very close as you say it. Almost perfect. (I'm catalan)
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  21. Aardy

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    0211EL...
     
  22. Boudewijn

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    This is 0211EL with its non original bodyshape.
     
  23. Manel

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    Me too!
    BENVINGUT!!
     
  24. AYMAMI

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  25. Aardy

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    Same one...
     

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