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Carnuba over PPF?

Discussion in 'Detailing & Showroom' started by Challenge, Apr 1, 2022.

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  1. Challenge

    Challenge Formula 3

    Sep 27, 2002
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    Fellow detailing geeks: have you ever layered carnuba over PPF? Any issues?

    I love to maximize shine and am considering applying Pinnacle Sovereign Series II over PPF.
     
  2. Autodetailing

    Autodetailing Karting

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    How can you maximise shine when your paint is covered in PPF film?
    Hopefully your paint was fully corrected before the PPF film was applied?, if yes, then no amount of wax etc over the top of the PPF will help?
    As posted elsewhere on this forum, if your PPF film is dull or scratched then use Gyeon Quartz PPF renew polish. There are also a host of other Ceramic coatings that will help preserve and maintain the hydrophobic properties of the PPF film.
    Dont waste your time and money layering expensive wax over the PPF.
     
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  3. Challenge

    Challenge Formula 3

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    Fair enough. The intent here would be to potentially add reflection not correct the paint of course. No issues with paint quality or PPF dullness. I already have the wax so I will save it for another ride.
     
  4. Autodetailing

    Autodetailing Karting

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    You could prove us all wrong Kevin and give it a try, but i would use a less expensive wax first, say Collinite or Petes 53 etc instead of your Pinnacle.
    You could take some before and after pics too?
     
  5. Extreme1

    Extreme1 Formula 3

    Jun 27, 2017
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    I’ve put Butter Wax on top of my PPF. I apply it with a random orbital buffer at a slow speed, then increase the speed, then wipe off with a microfiber towel.

    My Grigio Titanio looks excellent.


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  6. Autodetailing

    Autodetailing Karting

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    I tell you what might work a treat and that would be ProteX by Corrosion X, its a fantastic synthetic wax, not far off competing with a Ceramic in my opinion. Might be the one for topping off PPF??
     
  7. Graz

    Graz Formula 3

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    You can treat PPF just as you would treat the uncovered clear coat. No problem.
     
  8. vdm9

    vdm9 Formula Junior
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    I use polish angel jubilee wax over the ppf on some cars - esp red and everyone says it makes the color pop and seem wetter.
    On other ppf cars/colors, I have used jescars and colinite wax in that order - ala obsessed garage and noticed a difference also.
    I am sure some chemical engineer type or psychologist can explain it...
    We are car guys... somethings we cant justify or explain - it just feels good !!!
     
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  9. Bob in Texas

    Bob in Texas F1 Rookie

    Apr 23, 2012
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    I coat the PPF all the time using Jescar synthetic or Pinnacle carnauba. No issues. I was told by the PPF guy to coat it to keep it nice using a synthetic like Jescar.


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  10. BMUK

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    Apr 27, 2022
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    I would refrain from wax on PPF. It can clog the edges and result in lifting.

    For PPF you should use a flexible ceramic coating such as gtechniqs halo or Xpel's fusion.

    Never polish PPF either otherwise you will damage its healing properties.
     
  11. Gtechniq

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    We offer a flexible film coating called Halo that is designed specifically for PPF and vinyl wraps. Be sure to prep the surface prior to application and it will give you two years of protection. You can find additional information as well as a video about the product on our website...

    https://gtechniq.com/shop/auto/ceramic-coatings/halo/
     
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  12. AP328

    AP328 Karting
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    I first installed PPF in 1988 and didn't know anyone else, at the time, who had it on their vehicle. There is absolutely no issue using wax and you will get better shine with a higher quality wax. Yes, you do want to be careful of edges, but having installed and used PPF (which has improved dramatically for the original 4" and 6" versions that were available) since the original install, I have had no issue with a wide range waxes. More recently (last few years) I have used waxes, and ceramic coatings depending on whether the vehicle was a daily driver or something I drove on the weekend. I always use a high quality wax when using wax. It does make a difference.
     
  13. Autodetailing

    Autodetailing Karting

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    I stand corrected here, always willing to listen to the experts.
     
  14. DiamondDog

    DiamondDog Formula 3
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    Aug 29, 2021
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    Film has come a long way. I feel that Stek leads now. The clarity and gloss are best in class. The ceramic coat is built into the film now with this brand


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