cambiocorsa or 6 speed manual

definately go with the manual because, u dont want to replace a clutch after only a couple thousand miles and with a manual, u are always controlling the car!

 

When i was Debating purchasing a Maser, i would only consider a Manny Tranny.I'm old school & Luv Rowing through the Gears. I know that the early years had some Glitches, but Upgrades were available.

PM Scott61. He had a ' 04 Manual Spyder.I know there are some Threads about this Subject.
I would Test Drive both(the Manny is Tuff to find).
When i purchase a 360, i will definitely Stick with the "Stick".
Yes the F1 is quicker, but not as Fun to Drive. My Cousin however, loves his F1. Different Strokes .........

 

I was totally for a manual when I was shopping around for the coupes but ended up with a CC. Given that my next car will be a manual, as I believe they are more direct and visceral, here are some reasons why I wouldn't buy a Maser. manual.
1. Resale on the standard version SUCKS.
2. The shift linkeage for the manuals is antiquated and off 90's version Ferraris.
3. Opposite of an S2000 transmission, ie. VERY rough and notchy and difficult to manuever through the gears.
4. CC clutches will only last a few thousand miles if you don't know how to drive them otherwise expect about 20k.
5. Did I mention the resale on the manauls sucks.
6. Manual versions are much harder to find.
7.Your wife or girlfriend will not be able to drive the standard.....oh wait that is a positive.
Either way, great car and good luck.

 

werent the shift linkage's updated in 04?

 

Not sure but I found my 04 to shift great and did not experience the problems I had read about in reviews of earlier models. Only thing I found a little difficult was Pedals were way to close together in my Spyder but special driving sneakers pretty much solved that. Would think there is more room down there in the coup

 

Shift linkeages were updated in '04 and greatly improved. IMHO it stills leaves much to be desired but becomes a matter of individual opinion and taste.
If you are planning to track the car or drive it through stop and go traffic the CC is the better way. Given that, coming out of an M3 without the SMG, I really miss rowing through the gears manually. Hopefully the '05's will have an updated manual transmission.

 

Opinions vary. 6 speed is indeed rare. It is less complicated to fix. Can you say $18K for a CC pump (yes, just the pump)? I see them (6 speeds) sell for more, not for less. As do 2 local authorized dealers. Mine shifts just fine. Techs say to expect 15K from CC, more like 30K from a manual, or actually, the two said have not changed one yet, so it was a guess. CC trannies are still for early adopters, IMO. Even the M3 SMG leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard the 430 is finally right. I mean....the factory tells you to never, ever back up a hill in a cc or F1 car !!! Try it, and your neighbors will think your car has the BBQ option. I had one as a loaner for 3 weeks, and it was interesting, but the thing was temperamental. Lots of unexplained stalling while idling, getting stuck in neutral, smoke, jerkiness. I got much smoother towards the end, but it was not relaxing....

 

I had a 2002 CC Coupé and found it very jerky until I had a Tubi exhaust installed, after which it smoothed out to very pleasant levels.

I understand that the factory improved the CC from 2003-on, so presumably it is easier to live with now, even non-Tubi.

Drove a 2003 6-speed and was terribly disappointed; it felt like a '50s pickup truck.

I would say get the most current year-model you can, as clearly Maserati has been refining the transmissions. And test-drive before you buy.

I wouldn't think wear-out of the CC would be a problem because of Maserati's long (4/50K) warranty, unless you buy a car approaching or out of warranty.

I get the impression that current Ferraris & Maseratis are really designed for paddle transmissions, with 6-speeds offered only for the stubborn few. But frankly driving even a well-sorted paddlecar leaves me with a "missing something essential" feeling - manual shifting is part of what sports cars are all about - and I would not go back to paddling again.

 

I had a M3 with SMG and found it took away from the driving experience. It seems BMW is doing away with manual transmissions and that was a big factor in getting the Maserati. Then Maserati would not give a stick on the 90th anniversary model that I liked and maybe stop offering on all future models. If car makers stop giving a stick I will stop buying new sports cars.

 

the E90 M5 will be available with 6MT in 2007, for purists like you.
no need to stop buying cars.

 

You know it's funny clutches on the Cambio go out every 2,000 miles which means I should have been through 6 now with 13,080 miles. Funny the stock one has held up for me still.

$18,000 for a pump? Part # please because I'm not seeing an $18,000 pump anywhere in these catalogs.

 

> but hear so many negative comments on cambio
... usually from folks who have neither a Maser nor the CC.

Love the CC on my GS. Way prefer it to manual partic. for fast driving.

 

If I had the choice, I'd go for the 6 speed. The CC in the Coupe is not smooth at all. That fact was substantiated to me when I got the QP as a loaner while my Coupe is in the shop. It's still there by the way, should have been a one day job, it's now been three days LOL. I'm not complaining, the QP is magnificent.

 

If I had it to do all over again, I'd opt for the manual 6-speed over the CC.

 

$18K is what I heard from the techs and someone else even confirmed here on fchat. I do not have access to the part numbers, so it might not be accurate, but a high pressure pump is a lot more expensive than a standard hydraulic clutch, or no pump at all. Just looking at the number of hoses on a cc car makes me dizzy. I do like progress, but I usually wait for the second release of anything to eat the dogfood (I work in software). I suspect that I would actually consider a 430 F1, or the Gallardo with the updates. I have heard positive experiences from owners about those two, and I might soon be in the F1 paddle camp...
One more point to consider. You can also search for threads where cc owners discuss the proper technique to leave a stoplight quickly. You have to tip in to engage and then floor it. If you floor without the initial tip in, even in sport mode, the Acura buys will have a field day videotaping the smoke, your neck injury, and so on. With a clutch, it is not as binary (although turning of the traction control will make a difference).
At the end of the day, you gotta drive both for as long as you can and look at your driving conditions. If it is all track, get the cc, if it is all city with hills, get the 6 speed. Anything in between, it is down what you can find with a good price.

 

Well, I'm a CC fan, with a 2003 Spyder. The CC is smooth and quick once you get used to it. I drive mine in Sport mode 100% of the time, never in Auto, and have learned to blip the throttle on downshifts to third gear and below (they taught us that at the track day sponsored by Ferrari/Maserati of SF!). If you want hard starts out of the hole (to teach that pesky rice rocket a lesson - which you'll probably lose in a straight away drag race anyway), just turn off MSP. It's a blast.
I have 22,500 miles on my original clutch, with lot's of shifting under full or close to full power, and aggressive downshifting when slowing down for stops.
The CC has the grab and responsiveness of a manual without the sluggish shifts of an automatic.
Anyway, I vote for CC, in case you didn't figure that out yet.
Mike

 

Manual anytime.

The CC crap vanishes both in quality and fun factor after 2-3 monthes of use or so.

Then everybody thinks you're still learning, and you spend your time wondering why you first bought this stuff...
Same story for hookers, eh !

 

> The CC crap vanishes both in quality and fun factor after 2-3 monthes of use or so.

Not true - have had both a Spyder and now a GS with CC and *still* enjoy it. Indeed I miss the paddles when driving my other stick-shift car.

The only crap here are some of the stupid posts...

 

Did you mention mine ?

For one, i had only problems, 2 clutches replaced in 15'000 miles or so, it's jerky and kills much of the driving fun, but that's my opinion.

If you drive really full throttle, ok, it's fun, but the gearbox has probably a different story to tell. Rest of the time, it's boring, especially around town.

 

I really think that the 6 speed is best for one environment, while the cc is best suited for another. It all depends on where you live and how you use the car.
Paging Rodney King, Paging Rodney King...!

 

I see all these clutches going out are not on the US Spec cars. Or do we just know how to drive better J/K

 

Well, if YOUR gearchange can make a difference on a F1 tranny....call me

 

Phone #? I have an odd technique I use but my car has nearly 13.3k miles on it now and I usually drive it pretty enthusiastically. If it's easier just shoot me a PM and I'll tell you the different techniques I use for driving.

 

Was joking.

I frankly hated it, but i got one of the early masers with CC tranny, so maybe this was the problem...

can't say, but never again.