California T 2016 vs new 911 992 4S as daily and only car

Can’t talk about the Porsche, since, surprisingly, I never drove one but I have a Cali and whatever people say I don’t think it’s a daily driver. Especially in Sweden you’ll have a lot of snow, hence a lot of salt on the roads which are not to good for the car. I don’t use mine during the winter time and there’s a reason for it. What I’ve heard about the Porsche, that it is a lot better for daily things than a Ferrari 458 or Cali. And just read your post again and it seems you already made your choice. Driving 15-20k in a Ferrari will cost you a lot more in insurance as well as lot of the insurance companies give you rates with 5k top per year. Depreciation will also be significant as most Ferrari’s have low mileage. Although your brand new Porsche will depreciate a lot as well. It was surprising to read you enjoyed better the Porsche driving experience compared to the Cali as it is a wonderful machine but hey, preferences differ and there’s nothing wrong with that. I think for your needs and based on your experience I’d go with the Porsche even though I’m a die hard Ferrari fan. Whichever you go with you’ll be very happy and enjoy the ride, safely.

 

The Cali T is plenty fast and definitely a better car than the 992. You can't tell enough in a test drive where you get to drive the car for at most 30 minutes. I owned a 991 TTS for three years and the Cali T HS for a year. The Cali T HS was the better car in every way.

 

Ever thought about an FF? They're likely in your price range, and its a V12 and its 4 wheel drive. The Carrera 4s is a nice car though too. The CaliT can be had for sub $150k with low miles now here in the U.S. if you look at the postings. Me personally, I see 911's every day on the roads but not too many Ferrari's. The occasional early Cali, or a 458, and there's a guy down the road that has a 348.

Tough choices...

 

Isn't the 911 a GT?

 

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I owned a Porsche Carrera for years and now I have a California Turbo. I can tell you there is a HUGE gap between a Ferrari and a Porsche. They don't compete in the same category. The Ferrari is more exclusive. More luxurious. The Turbo is an awesome car with a double personnality. It can be gentle in the traffic jams and furious when you release its power. The gear box is amazing. It reads your mind.

When I was buying my Ferrari I had to choose between a 458 with carbon seats or the California. The 458 is awesome but impossible to use daily according to me. Search on youtube for the video explaining how to switch radio stations and you ll see my point ! Plus it is low and it will break your back on long distances. Well at least mine (I am 45).
I choose the Cali because I wanted to share the pleasure of driving a Ferrari with my kids. We do have plenty of fun in this car. I also intended to use as a daily car but I gave up. Nothing to do with the car but more with others. People would stop to take pics, the roads are narrow and the car is 2m. You will have bikes coming so close to the car .

Now I use it to go to Ferrari events, meet prospects and clients and enjoy it more like a motorbike.

If you want to use the Ferrari daily you will have to treat it as a normal car which is impossible for me. I love this car !

 

Regular winter driving at 20000 KM a year is a big deterrant to owning a RWD Ferrari which will have less traction, worse depreciation and higher operating costs. I don't think it would be that much fun in a big city like Stockholm and I don't think you will get much use of it for 4 months a year during the winter even if you put on winter tires. Not saying you couldn't do it but not fun.

The 992 4S is more practical for your purposes and is less mileage sensitive, will be under 4 year OEM warranty and has 4WD. It will however be much less exciting than a Cali/458 and much less of an event to drive. I went from a Carrera 2 S to a California to a 458 Spider. The only Porsche that captured my fancy after that was a 991 GT3 and I would never go back to a base Carrera/S/GTS. It's too bad you can't have a cheap winter beater and save the Ferrari for nice weather days. It would be a much more enjoyable ownership experience.

 

For a daily u can’t beat a Pcar. Fcar are toys whereas p car is a true daily.

 

I drove my Lamborghini Daily, its an audi

 

To the OP, Life life, get a Ferrari. California are pretty solid.

Put snow tires on it and enjoy...

 

you real daily should be a jeep wrangler or a volvo, or something simple....

 

Dailied a California, 458 Spider, AMG GTS and Huracan. Huracan is super reliable because Audighini

Honestly, the worst daily driver over the past few years is my 991 GT3. Wing obscures rear visibility, rock hard suspension makes potholes and bumps a bone jarring experience and front lip is so slammed even with my Front Axle Lift I consider the plastic lip a disposable item and replaced it annually.

 

I have owned 43 Porsche's (have 4 now), and a modified Calf T (with over 650 HP and 650TQ), and I have said this before but I give it another shot. The T is a great car, but it really needs to be pushed to show what it is capable of. In comparison my modified GTS (with over 600 hp and TQ) feels like a wild horse you are trying to hold back. I also have a modified 991 C4S (it is my winter fun car) and it feels like a sports car no matter what speed I drive it. Since I am incapable of having any emotional experience related to a car, I base things solely on what the machine can do (and no machine from the factory is good enough for my purposes). I don't drink the cool aid or care what the badge says (I like everything from a miata to a vette), and I have overcome my deep hatred of AWD sports cars (I always converted then to RWD and used to think they should be melted down to make homes for the needy), and even now own one. I see they can have a purpose. I have yet to drive a 992, and until I do I cannot say the T is a better car, but I look at things differently that anyone else here because I keep so many cars at once, they only need to be good at one thing. If it were me and I lived in Sweden I'd buy the new 992, I say that because it is the logical choice, not the emotional one. Good luck.

 

You may be more emotional than you let on.

 

I wish that were true, but sadly it is not. Cars are merely adult tinker toys to me!

 

I have a 2015 California T as my daily driver and find it to be very comfortable in all situations. On occasion I will take my wife’s 2015 Porsche Targa 4S and find myself wishing I was in the Cali. The Porsche is probably more reliable but it drives like a small car and you feel every bit of the road, the Ferrari feels much larger and you do not feel the road humps.

 

Me

Sex weeks into my first ever Ferrari (Cali30), coming from a 991.2 and still owning a Macan for daily. Bought my F through Autoropa and all my Porsches (on my 3rd now) from Porsche centers here in Sthlm.

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I'll weigh in here, even though I am in Arizona which is about as different from Stockholm as you could be. I bought a 991.2 4S Targa just 6 months ago. I am trading it for a 2017 California T. I currently have a Ferrari 328GTS and have owned 7 other Ferraris in the last 15 years including a gen 1 California. The Targa is a great car. And no question that the 4 wheel drive would be better in the snow. But I just have no passion for the car. The Ferrari just calls me to love it. The Porsche just to admire it. And this car is my daily driver. I don't know if this helps, but that's my view.

 

I own both 458 Italia and California. If having 4 seats and and open top is not part of your requirement ..... then go for 458 at any given day. Its an big upgrade vs Cali.

 

I enjoy my 991.2 TTS as a daily and it is reliable, good in the rain and super fast.........could care less about exclusivity as long as the driving is good and maintenance is far and few between.........