Hello, thanks this forum I choose to go for a Ferrari FF as the best Ferrari option for me at the moment. Now I wondering what things I should think about before buying one, if there is anything I should ask for or look extra at before buying a FF. Is there any common problems I should see if they fixed it and any specific thing that is good if previous owners fixed? Is around $15,000 budget per year enough for service and taking good care of the car or should I expect higher cost per year? Thanks!
Not enough, PTU rebuild will costs 9-10k$, Suspension arm: 800-1200$, wheel hub 1500$, sensors 100-300$, battery 300$, this is weak in car. And each 80k-100k km you need to change ceramic rotors and pads, fuel pump, candles, xoils
So these I need to fix every year? 15k was just an average but I understand that there could be more. Just kinda looking if that is something that is somehow average expenses per year.
You can reserve ± € 1,500 - € 2,000 for regular maintenance. This does not include replacement of tyres, brake discs, brake pads, etc. This naturally depends on the number of kilometers to be driven per year and your driving style (this is different for everyone). Replacement of the PTU unit remains a question mark. That is a big uncertainty, but there is plenty to find on FerrariChat. You can insure yourself against this at the Ferrari dealer (Power15), but I have chosen to reserve the annual premium for myself. Most likely you will be cheaper then. Incidentally, you can also cover maintenance together with this insurance (Power15 & Maintenance), but that usually does not pay off. Finally, a lot has to do with the maintenance history of the car. Put a lot of time into this and ask for documentation etc. In the Netherlands we say: "Bezit van de zaak is het einde van het vermaak", translated: "Owning the business (car) is the end of the fun", but that does not apply to the Ferrari FF. This car has two faces: a beast, but also a great travel car at the same time. Have fun with your search!
In six years of FF ownership, my costs have averaged around €1k pa in servicing. Other repair costs have been €2.5k for a fuel pump and €1.25k for brake pads. There’s a sign of a water pump leak but monitoring the coolant level suggests that it’s tiny or the apparent leak is from spillage. If it needs replaced, that’ll be another €4k. So, worst case real life experience is €2.3k pa in running costs. I also maintain a sinking fund of €5k a year (the cost of the Ferrari warranty which I don’t buy). So €7.3k pa set against the FF pays for the running costs and leaves me with a war chest of €30k to cover any big bills So in summary, I’d say that your $15k pa is wildly conservative.
As always, it depends... Since I just sold my FF, I know that there are no FFs in Sweden with free service. Service might be around 2k per yer assuming you drive less than 15.000 km or something. Then there is this with engine and gearboxes... In Sweden one can insure engine and gearboxes thru the normal insurance company (be aware of limitation on age and milage, for example "if insurance" has an insurance that covers engine/gearboxes up to 10 years), which in most part will cover everything that Power warrant will. Be aware of different limitations. A battery might be 300 us but not i Sweden... For some odd reason here in Sweden the cost might just be that more expensive. Partly due to the exchange rate for SEK. PTU, go to SS Autotech for a replacement PTU. Use EBM in Uppsala. There is alot more that might be valuble to know. Most is documented here on this forum. Eurospares is another good source. The maintenance manual, in pdf form, is available. It is a great car, don't worry. 15k us might be enough, but keep another 15k us on the side, just in case....
Okay, I live in Uppsala so only got 5min drive to Erik so that is perfect. Did you sell yours in the start of the year to Autoropa? Yes what I meant with the 15k was just kinda keeping the car in good condition and maybe not big fixes. As a younger person with no earlier experience with any exotic brand I only heard that it is really expensive but that I guess depends on what amount people think is much so just wanted to see if it is 15k or 50k but as Peder Karlsson said, Ferraris are cheap compared to owning a big boat and more affordable than people think.
Yes my FF was sold thru Autoropa for about a month ago. Peder is about 100% korrekt. Although he seems to change cars a lot more than boats ;-) I've sent an PM for as few more local details...
I sense many of the comments above are from people that don't own an FF and perhaps not even a Ferrari, so take it for what it's worth. I've had my FF for almost three years, put about 7K miles on it (25K total) and never had a problem so far. It's just been normal annual maintenance and tires. The best advice I received was to maintain a Ferrari like an aircraft. That advice has kept me out of major trouble so far but I've also been lucky to work with an amazing mechanic that keeps the car in top condition. Your budget should give you the buffer to cover most things and sounds reasonable. The PTU is a known issue but it seems like the potential solutions are coming down to a more manageable level and within the budget you're setting aside. I've had Ferrari's for years, and almost every model has known issues. The only one that seems to be the exception is the 430. Ferrari seemed to get that one right. Do your homework to find a solid shop, and get a thorough PPI from that shop (and tell them they will be the ones maintaining the car). Take your time to find a good car and enjoy!
Annual service 1000-1500 bucks, otherwise the car is indeed reasonably reliable, but if something big goes it will be costly A speed sensor and new rear hubs netted me a 30k bill no I'm not over it yet
I think you are being wildly conservative with $15k per year! I am spending around $800 per year for regular maintenance - oil, brake fluids. Some additional cost to swap the summer and winter tires $220 each time. Had an airbag ECU replaced for $1,800 and freon topped up for $300. So very reasonable for maintenance with an independent. Might need to spend more with a major service like belts, PTU oil etc. You should reserve funds for the PTU and maybe the DCT but this doesn't fail on all FFs but you should be prepared (unfortunately). I would not let the maintenance costs deter you but I would be cautious about the history of the specific FF.