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Bugatti Royale (1 of 6 made)

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  1. stevenwk

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    I took the family to the Titanic exhibit yesterday for the sole purpose of viewing the exhibit; nothing else.

    Yet, year after year, I am always drawn to this car. As usual, I drag the wife and my girls to the other side of the museum and view the car. My visit is never complete without a look. It never gets old for me.

    How many of you remember the the Testarossa and the 300 SLR that the Henry Ford used to have? Sure do miss those cars too!!!
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  2. AxerJk

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    Really?? When did they have those there? I remember visiting a LONG time ago and seeing the Firebird III concept, and had a bit of nostalgia the last few times I visited the GM Heritage Center.

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  3. stevenwk

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    Early 1980-1981, but they were there for many years.

    The TR, as I recall, had #16 on the car. My father has pics of the car that were taken in "stereo." That Ferrari was sold maybe 10-15 years ago?

    The 300 SLR was there at the same time as the TR.

    I remember them well.
     
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  5. stevenwk

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    Chris,

    The neat thing about that particular TR (and the 300 SLR for that matter) is that it was in race worn condition. Patina galore. It looked as if it had just got off the track and deposited directly in Dearborn. I was a sophomore in high school at the time. It was those early years and viewing those two cars which ignited my passion in automobiles.

    Steve
     
  6. AxerJk

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    Hey Steve,

    If you are into those types of cars, you should really consider visiting the Simeone Museum in Philadelphia. They have a 250 TR, a 250 LM, Shelby Daytona, '63 Corvette Grand Sport, Porsche 917, and TONS of other 7-8 figure cars. They are all original, no replicas. Once a month, they have a driving demonstration where they actually take these historical cars an drive them outside. The museum is just spectacular. Check it out here: http://simeonemuseum.org/

    It looks like we also live close, do you attend a lot of the car shows around the area?

    Chris
     
  7. stevenwk

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    Hi Chris,

    I've heard of, but have never been. Yes, supposed to be spectacular. Hope to make it out one day to Philadelphia and go. -

    On and off through the years I have attended the local shows here in the Detroit area. I am always amazed at some of the significant cars that have gone through metro Detroit over the years.

    Incidentally, in the mid 80's there used to be a nice gathering in Grand Blanc, but I don't know if this event is still held. Many Ferraris; I want to say that it occurs during the Buick Open perhaps.

    Steve
     
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  9. JeremyJon

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    it makes the TD look like a childs toy :D
     
  10. James_Woods

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    TB???
     
  11. dbw

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    PA.....
     
  12. JeremyJon

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    i thought was a MG-TD, but now realise it's not...what model is that smaller car?
     
  13. Tenney

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    TC? Don't think TD had wire wheels.
     
  14. James_Woods

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    I think an earlier car than the TC - this has cycle fenders.

    PA is likely.
     
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    Again, my recollection - may or may not be 100% accurate.
    I believe the TR was driven by Phil Hill to significant success. It was traded or sold within the last few years to obtain the #16 Locomobile from Peter Helk's estate because the museum wanted to focus it's collection more on American made cars.
     
  17. stevenwk

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    What happened to the 300 SLR?
     
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    MG J2 "Midget" :)
     
  20. James_Woods

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    Here we find ourselves debating the lineage of an early MG while contemplating the absolute King of the classic era.

    However, I was sad to see that the Shlumpf replica does not maintain the artistic style of El Maestro.
     
  21. bitzman

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    I have been working up a little history on the car and am confused , did Dr. Fuchs, the original owner, actually take it to Japan when he lived there before the war? Or was it China? And, in the opinion of those who work for automakers, were the repairs done by Cheyne (changing to two carbs) something a lot of hobbyists could have done, or did it help that he worked for the world's largest automaker? Is it true that Cheyne saw it parked at Saratoga race track in the '30s and that's when he fell in love with it. I am from Detroit and saw this car every time I went to the Museum. I prefer it in its present white compared to the black and yellow it was reportedly ordered in.
     
  22. NürScud

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    Art in wheels.!
     
  23. tilomagnet

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    To the best of my knowlegde Dr. Fuchs emigrated to the States sometime after 1933. Then the block cracked during a winter in the late 30ies or early 40ies and due to the fact that the Bugatti factory in Molsheim basically ceased to exist after the German victory over France he was unable to source any spares and the car was sent to the scrapyard where CC found it ~ 1943 (???). I think thats the commonly accepted history of this example more or less.

    I also agree that its definately among the best looking Royales....the Coupe Napoleon may be more iconic, but its a truly beautiful car. I also like the white/ivory colour scheme though Ive heard there have been plans to eventually bring it back to how it looked on delivery.
     
  24. RP

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    The Esders green car is the "replica", although using authentic Bugatti parts, and after-all, it was commissioned by the Holy Land of Bugattis, the French National Auto Museum in Mulhouse. I prefer to call it "semi-real".

    Have been there at least 7 times, most recent was in 2011. If you are a Bugatti fanatic, this is the place to visit. First two words I tried to teach my youngest daughter, Ferrari and Bugatti. Knowing the meaning behind those names opens a lot of doors for a woman.
     
  25. readplays

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    The Dearborn Museum had 0704. Yes a Phil Hill car.
    Detail - 250 TR s/n 0704TR

    Best,
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