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  1. Scuderia CC

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    C'est vrai que c'est un travail pénible... :):):)
     
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  3. amenasce

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    On va se syndiquer :)
     
  4. eurperules

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    read that article, made me change my mind about the veyron
     
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    What the F.
     
  7. Scuderia CC

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    Mark,

    I just finished watching the video (I must confess, I skipped all of the non-Bugatti bits) - absolutely stellar! Thanks for posting it. I hadn't seen it before.

    Andrew
     
  12. Malfark

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    Thanks - I found it last night and watched everything!

    Here's another incredibly interesting article: http://money.howstuffworks.com/bugatti1.htm

    I found the section on calculating the size of engine and the amount of fuel and air required for the Veyron particularly interesting.

    Can't wait to see/hear one in the flesh!

    Cheers, MARK
     
  13. ForzaFerrari

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    just watched it ... just finished seconds ago ;) ... what a fantastic car! :) ... and what funny does Nigel looks like without his mustouche (or how do you spell that furry thing on his upperlip ;) hahaha

    no, but a great show that is... TopGear; and a fantastic car must that Bugatti be! :D ...

    cheers!
     
  14. Malfark

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    Yes, I look forward to HEARING one! :D MARK
     
  15. Wolfgang

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    Bugatti Veyron - Jeremy Clarkson - Times Online




    Times Online November 27, 2005

    Bugatti Veyron
    By Jeremy Clarkson of The Sunday Times



    Utterly, stunningly, jaw droppingly brilliant


    When you push a car past 180mph, the world starts to get
    awfully fizzy and a little bit frightening. When you go past
    200mph it actually becomes blurred. Almost like you’re trapped
    in an early Queen pop video. At this sort of speed the tyres
    and the suspension are reacting to events that happened some
    time ago, and they have not finished reacting before they’re
    being asked to do something else. The result is a terrifying
    vibration that rattles your optical nerves, causing double
    vision. This is not good when you’re covering 300ft a second.
    Happily, stopping distances become irrelevant because you
    won’t see the obstacle in the first place. By the time you
    know it was there, you’ll have gone through the windscreen,
    through the Pearly Gates and be half way across God’s
    breakfast table.
    It has always been thus. When Louis Rigolly broke the 100mph
    barrier in his Gobron in 1904, the vibration would have been
    terrifying. And I dare say that driving an E-type at 150mph in
    1966 must have been a bit sporty as well.
    But once you go past 200mph it isn’t just the suspension and
    the tyres you have to worry about. The biggest problem is the
    air. At 100mph it’s relaxed. At 150mph it’s a breeze. But at
    200mph it has sufficient power to lift an 800,000lb jumbo jet
    off the ground. A 200mph gust of wind is strong enough to
    knock down an entire city. So getting a car to behave itself
    in conditions like these is tough.
    At 200mph you can feel the front of the car getting light as
    it starts to lift. As a result you start to lose your
    steering, so you aren’t even able to steer round whatever it
    is you can’t see because of the vibrations. Make no mistake,
    200mph is at the limit of what man can do right now. Which is
    why the new Bugatti Veyron is worthy of some industrial
    strength genuflection. Because it can do 252mph. And that’s
    just mad — 252mph means that in straight and level flight this
    car is as near as makes no difference as fast as a Hawker
    Hurricane.
    You might point out at this juncture that the McLaren F1 could
    top 240mph, but at that speed it was pretty much out of
    control. And anyway it really isn’t in the same league as the
    Bugatti. In a drag race you could let the McLaren get to
    120mph before setting off in the Veyron. And you’d still get
    to 200mph first. The Bugatti is way, way faster than anything
    else the roads have seen.
    Of course, at £810,000, it is also jolly expensive, but when
    you look at the history of its development you’ll discover
    it’s rather more than just a car . . .

    “Make no mistake, 200mph is at the limit of what
    man can do right now. Which is why the new
    Bugatti Veyron is worthy of some industrial
    strength genuflection. Because it can do 252mph.
    And that’s just mad — 252mph means that in
    straight and level flight this car is as near as
    makes no difference as fast as a Hawker Hurricane”

    Jeremy Clarkson


    It all started when Ferdinand Piëch, the swivel-eyed former
    boss of Volkswagen, bought Bugatti and had someone design a
    concept car. “This,” he said, “is what the next Bugatti will
    look like.” And then, without consulting anyone, he went on.
    “And it will have an engine that develops 1000 horsepower and
    it will be capable of 400kph.”
    His engineers were horrified. But they set to work anyway,
    mating two Audi V8s to create an 8 litre W16. Which was then
    garnished with four turbochargers. Needless to say, the end
    result produced about as much power as the earth’s core, which
    is fine. But somehow the giant had to be cooled, which is why
    the Veyron has no engine cover and why it has 10 — count them
    — 10 radiators. Then things got tricky because the power had
    to be harnessed.
    For this, VW went to Ricardo, a British company that makes
    gearboxes for various Formula One teams.
    “God, it was hard,” said one of the engineers I know vaguely.
    “The gearbox in an F1 car only has to last a few hours.
    Volkswagen wanted the Veyron’s to last 10 or 20 years. And
    remember, the Bugatti is a damn sight more powerful than any
    F1 car.”
    The result, a seven-speed double-clutch flappy paddle affair,
    took a team of 50 engineers five years to perfect.
    With this done, the Veyron was shipped to Sauber’s F1 wind
    tunnel where it quickly became apparent that while the magic
    1000bhp figure had been achieved, they were miles off the
    target top speed of 400kph (248mph). The body of the car just
    wasn’t aerodynamic enough, and Volkswagen wouldn’t let them
    change the basic shape to get round the problem.
    The bods at Sauber threw up their hands, saying they only had
    experience of aerodynamics up to maybe 360kph, which is the
    effective top speed in Formula One. Beyond this point Bugatti
    was on its own.
    Somehow they had to find an extra 30kph, and there was no
    point in looking to the engine for answers because each extra
    1kph increase in speed requires an extra 8bhp from the power
    plant. An extra 30kph then would need an extra 240bhp. That
    was not possible.
    The extra speed had to come from changing small things on the
    body. They started by fitting smaller door mirrors, which
    upped the top speed a bit but at too high a price. It turned
    out that the bigger ones had been keeping the nose of the car
    on the ground. Without them the stability was gone.
    In other words, the door mirrors were generating downforce.
    That gives you an idea of how much of a bastard the air can be
    at this speed.

    After some public failures, fires and accidents, and one chief
    being fired, they hit on the idea of a car that automatically
    changes shape depending on what speed you’re going.
    At 137mph, the nose of the car is lowered by 2in and the big
    rear spoiler slides into the slipstream. The effect is
    profound. You can feel the back of the car being pressed into
    the road.
    However, with the spoiler in place the drag is so great you’re
    limited to just 231mph. To go faster than that you have to
    stop and insert your ignition key in a slot on the floor. This
    lowers the whole car still further and locks the big back wing
    down. Now you have reduced downforce, which means you won’t be
    going round any corners, but you have a clean shape. And that
    means you can top 400kph.


    That’s 370ft a second.
    You might want to ponder that for a moment. Covering the
    length of a football pitch, in a second, in a car. And then
    you might want to think about the braking system. A VW Polo
    will generate 0.6g if you stamp on the middle pedal hard. You
    get that from the air brake alone on a Veyron. Factor in the
    carbon ceramic discs and you will pull up from 250mph in just
    10sec. Sounds good, but in those 10sec you’ll have covered a
    third of a mile.
    That’s five football pitches to stop.
    I didn’t care. On a recent drive across Europe I desperately
    wanted to reach the top speed but I ran out of road when the
    needle hit 240mph. Where, astonishingly, it felt planted.
    Totally and utterly rock steady. It felt sublime.
    Not quiet, though. The engine sounds like Victorian plumbing —
    it looks like Victorian plumbing as well, to be honest — and
    the roar from the tyres was biblical. But it still felt
    brilliant. Utterly, stunningly, mind blowingly, jaw droppingly
    brilliant.
    And then I reached the Alps where, unbelievably, it got
    better. I expected this road rocket to be absolutely useless
    in the bends but it felt like a big Lotus Elise.
    Occasionally, if I accelerated hard in a tight corner, it
    behaved strangely as the four-wheel-drive system decided which
    axle would be best equipped to deal with the wave of power. I
    won’t say it’s a nasty feel or dangerous. Just weird, in the
    same way that the duck-billed platypus is weird.

    You learn to raise an eyebrow at what’s only a foible, and
    then, as the road straightens out, steady yourself for Prince
    Albert’s boiler to gird its loins and play havoc with the
    space-time continuum. No, really, you come round a bend, see
    what appears to be miles and miles of dead straight road, bury
    your foot in the carpet and with a big asthmatic wheeze, bang,
    you’re instantly at the next bend, with your eyebrow raised
    again.
    From behind the wheel of a Veyron, France is the size of a
    small coconut. I cannot tell you how fast I crossed it the
    other day. Because you simply wouldn’t believe me. I also
    cannot tell you how good this car is. I just don’t have the
    vocabulary. I just end up stammering and dribbling and talking
    wide-eyed nonsense. And everyone thinks I’m on drugs.
    This car cannot be judged in the same way that we judge other
    cars. It meets drive-by noise and emission regulations and it
    can be driven by someone whose only qualification is an
    ability to reverse round corners and do an emergency stop. So
    technically it is a car. And yet it just isn’t.
    Other cars are small guesthouses on the front at Brighton and
    the Bugatti is the Burj Al Arab. It makes even the Enzo and
    the Porsche Carrera GT feel slow and pointless. It is a
    triumph for lunacy over common sense, a triumph for man over
    nature and a triumph for Volkswagen over absolutely every
    other car maker in the world.

    VITAL STATISTICS
    Model Bugatti Veyron 16.4
    Engine 7993cc, 16 cylinders in a W
    Power 1001bhp @ 6000rpm
    Torque 922 lb ft @ 2200rpm
    Transmission 7-speed DSG, manual and auto
    Fuel 11.7mpg (combined)
    CO2 574g/km
    Acceleration 0-62mph: 2.5sec
    Top speed 253mph
    Price £810,345

    Rating Five stars
    Verdict Deserves 12 stars. Simply as good — and as fast — as
    it gets


    Copyright 2005 Times Newspapers Ltd.
     
  16. Scuderia CC

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  17. The Zapper

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    Thanks, the video looks good.
     
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