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Bosica Ferrari 156/85 best ever F1 kit in 1/43 scale.

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  1. dmp studios

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    Wow! The work shown on this site is truly stunning... the 1970 Ferrari 312 based on the SMTS kit is really quite remarkable... I remember building those kits back in the day and to say the least they were NOT builder friendly, how this fellow achieved the result he has is almost beyond comprehension!

    Does anyone know approximately what these models cost? Iam not one to be nosy Iam very interested to know what that sort of workmanship or dare I say "art" would set one back.

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  2. WOLFMAN

    WOLFMAN Formula 3

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    Is there a place or site anywhere, were I can buy small parts for 1/43 scale models. Like rivets, hoses and other parts?
    Any help finding such parts would be dearly appreciated.
     
  3. desire308

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    www.hobby-carmodel.com

    They are out of France and carry a lot of detail parts.
     
  4. Arjan

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    The 643 and the other 156/85 were build by Akihiro Kamimura (http://gdist43.com/) from Japan. Possibly the best high detail kit builder around.

    To answer this thread title: YESS!!!!

    I sell a lot of parts for 1/43 models and am in Holland: www.deroosautominiaturen.com
     
  5. F1tommy

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    I know a model shop in the Chicago area that has 2 375's,the 156/85 and I think they still have a 126/C2 from Bosica in stock.They are great kits.
    They will bring them to the Ferrari Expo art/model show at Continental Ferrari/Maserati near Chicago April 2008 as they always have a few tables.

    Tom Tanner
     
  6. PAR8HD

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    Best 1/43 site I know is Grand Prix Models in England. www.grandprixmodels.co.uk The service is excellent and if it is available they will get it for you. Bad news is the pound v. dollar rate about kills ya! In 1/43 Kamimura is the benchmark. For 1/12 I would Andy Mathews (of the Clear-View Books) still has some of the best work out there. www.andymathews.com There are a couple of 1/20 builders out there that are pretty awesome. William Chan in California took Nationals with a very nice F-2001 this year. For paint, I am really liking some stuff I am getting from Hiroboy. www.hiroboy.com
     
  7. WOLFMAN

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    By reading all the replies on my thread, I came to the conclusion that the Bosica
    Kit “156/85” is still the most wanted model for serious F1 collectors.

    The best builder of all the 156/85 I seen so far is, Akihiro Kamimura.
    I can truly say, that guy builds are perfect!
    Anybody in f-chat disagrees?

    Unfortunately is the Bosica 156/85 kit extreme hard to find.
    To bad, I can’t find another kit.
     
  8. F1tommy

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    I agree Wolfman.I do know of a shop in Chicago that has atleast 1 Bosica F1 kit
    in stock along with 2 375 models.Grand Prix Models has not had them in stock for years
    unless they were from a collection they picked up.This is a good thread.So what do you
    guys think of Feeling 43???I know they are hard to build!!


    Tom Tanner/Scale Designs
     
  9. desire308

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    #34 desire308, Jan 5, 2008
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    Feeling43 are fairly crude, especially the white metal castings. With a lot of work they can turn up nicely. Here's the F40 I built. As with most Feeling43 kits getting the panels to fit is also a challenge.
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  10. WOLFMAN

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    F1tommy, can you please find out for me which Bosica F1 kit they have in stock.
    I’m interested in the 156/85 only. Thanks

    As for the Feeling43 kits, I have not touched any of there kits. Like desire308 states, there kits are fairly crude and the fitting is not very good either.

    desire308, now that is what I call a super F40 open version. Extremely well built!
     
  11. F1tommy

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    I just called him.He sold the 156/85 to some guy in NY.He has a 126C2 for $400.00 and
    a 375 Pan Am for $300.00.He also has a 312T Makeup for $375.00(Tameo better??).

    He also has a Southern Cross Maserati 450 Costin for I think $110.00.

    He always has a table at the Ferrari Expo art/model show in Chicago every year.
    Its on April 12th 2008 this year and will have a full hand built model contest again.

    Go to www.kaz43.fotki.com

    to see photos under Ferrari expo albums.

    Tom Tanner/Scale Designs
     
  12. F1tommy

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    The Feeling 43 F40LM looks very nice.
    I saw that car at Road america back in 1990 when it almost won the race.


    TT
     
  13. WOLFMAN

    WOLFMAN Formula 3

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    Thank you for drying to find the 156/85 kit.
    Not really interested in the other Bosica kits. Thanks again.
     
  14. desire308

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    Prices are way up on the 156/85. One used to get them for $500-800. Last one sold on ebay for a cool $1500 plus :0

    TT...thanks ;) I also sent you a pm
     
  15. WOLFMAN

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    Thank you all, for the support on finding small 1/43 parts.
    The given links are helpful, in order of what I’m searching for.

    If someone in Fchat has a Bosica 156/85 kit, please sent me a PM.
     
  16. dretceterini

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    IMO, the first "superkit" ever done was the Eagle Indy car done by IMRA. Lloyd Asbury, who later made the patterns for the Precision Miniatures models of Gene Parril did the pattern for the IMRA Eagle...
     
  17. dretceterini

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    Some of the Asians are now charging as much as $10,000 for super detailed 1/43rd models! There are individuals in Europe charging as much as $5000.


    I would suggest that if you can afford these kinds of prices, you go to Retromobile in Paris, which starts on Feb.8th. Many of the best European builders will be there. I didn't go last year, but I have seen a photo of a Lancia D50 GP car done by LP Creation that is superb. The price was something like $5500, and the value of the dollar has gone down another 10% in the last year.


    I have been around long enough to remember models which are now $3500 made by Brauer and Bouissou were $300!
     
  18. desire308

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    I am currently starting on one for a customer. I will post progress if you like. The "Grooved Piston Special" NOVI was the first 1/43 model I ever built about 25 years ago. At the time I was just a hobbiest.
     
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  20. F1tommy

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    Thats who I got my first 1/43rd model from.MCM and Gene Parril.I had one of the Eagle models at one time and sold it.My first 1/43 model was a AMR Ferrari 250 GTO followed
    by a AMR/BAM BMW 3.5 CSL Luigi and a AMR Greenwood Corvette back when they were new.State of the art back in the late 1970s!!

    Tom Tanner/Scale Designs
     
  21. dretceterini

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    I would be interested in seeing it. I built one at least 30 years ago, and it goes together better than anything Bosics ever did. Bosica's models require a LOT of work. The 375 coupe is a nightmare to build; the doors don't fit, etc, etc...
     
  22. P4Replica

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    Lloyd Asbury - also one-time co-owner of Lancer slot car bodyshells. :)
    ;)
     
  23. alfred tiegler

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    You will also know Lloyd as pattern maker for Associated Electrics RC cars.
     
  24. dretceterini

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    Yep...I've known Lloyd for almsot 40 years! I knew Gene from Associated too...damn, am I THAT old???
     
  25. P4Replica

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    #50 P4Replica, Jan 7, 2008
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    With apologies for the slightly off topic post.

    Stu. Then perhaps you could do me a favour. Next time you talk to Lloyd - ask him a question for me. ;)

    It's generally accepted in slot racing circles that Lloyd Asbury's Lancer bodyshells were the nicest (and generally the most accurate) vac-forms ever produced. They were certainly the most expensive in their day (especially in the U.K.) - and those prices are reflected on eBay nowadays, with his 1:24 Ferrari P4 shells sometimes going for as much as $200.

    But - my question is: as lovely a thing as his Ferrari P4 moulding is .... how come he managed to get the rear tail moulding wrong ? :confused:

    It's the the same in both the 1:32 and 1:24 versions of his moulding.
    Effectively it has a P3 (mesh) rear panel without the FIA luggage boxes. Something that has always bugged me.

    The third photo down is just for illustration. It's not my handiwork, and is actually a Patto's (poor) re-pop of the Lancer 1:24 P4 shell.
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