Bosch fuel injector relay cross reference

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http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=206814

(ducking for cover...)

 

0 332 014 113 is a Bosch approved substitute? I wonder what the difference is. That'd be cool if it works. The ones from Ferrari are obscenely expensive. It's no wonder they're "dead stock" at that price.

 

Just out of curiosity, I just pulled one of each of these two relays (0 332 014 113 and 0 332 014 140) out of my 348. They are both stamped with a rating of 12 volts, 30 amps. They have exactly the same terminal numbering and location. The electrical diagrams on each are exactly the same. I can't see any difference of any kind. So why do they have different numbers?

 

That's obscene, but good to know!

 

I just replaced my four original Bosch 4140 relays with 4 new 4113's in the fuel injector and fuel pump slots.

3 of the original 4 Bosch 4140's had corrosion on the center pin terminal in precisely the same place (see below).

Also, the second pic below shows (poorly) that 4140's have the same circuit diagram as do the 4113's. The newer 4113's are made in Spain. The older 4140's are made in Germany.
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So I turned my ignition key to Position II, but with the new relays the CEL 5-8 light failed to illuminate.

I yanked the new 4113 relay from the left fuel injector spot and replaced it with another new 4113 relay (thankfully I ordered 6 relays for these 4 positions).

Turned the key to Position II again and this time both CEL 1-4 as well as CEL 5-8 behaved properly by lighting up for their self-tests.

Started my 348 and drove around town for some errands.

No problems.


So the new 4113 relay does indeed seem to be a viable replacement for the old 4140's, with the caveat that quality control on these new Made in Spain relays may not be 100%.

Buy a spare 4113 accordingly!

 

Looks like it would be good to have a few spares. Any idea where can I buy this Bosch relay #0332014113 online?

Thanks in advance.

 

It's common. Every auto parts store from specialty stores like RicambiAmerica.com to Rockauto.com to NAPA should have them in stock for $15 each or less I'd guess.

 

Daniel (Ricambi),

Can you get close to the Rock Auto price?

Mike in Kuwait

 

Just checked the Bosch eCat online and the 0 332 014 113 isn't listed! The 0 332 014 140 is still listed as available.

Equivalent 140 numbers are:

Fiat: 60812059
Fiat: 7615576
IVECO: 7615576
Lancia: 60812059
Lancia: 7615576

Relays often fulfil the same function (there are only a finite number of things a realy can do!) but with different specifications for duration and current. So a relay which does the same switching may only be suitable for a lower current or intermittent operation.

example: http://www.boschmotorsandcontrols.co.uk/relais/relais.pdf

or

http://bowery.com/maserati/home/files/bosch%20relays.pdf

 

I just show places like RockAuto and ImportCarParts as having the 4113 for sale (http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/archsoftware/importedcarpartspfp/quote.jsp?partner=pacific&partnerSession=02a429121852be3e6b0a9a64b997f02f&product=0%20332%20014%20113), with no one seeming to carry the 4140...

 

Daniel is CHEAPER than Rock Auto!

http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=217892

 

Thanks ND,

Even if Daniel was a few $s more, I'd rather get from him as a site sponsor.

Mike in Kuwait

 

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jalpa_mike06-28-2006, 01:25 PM
I have some more information on this....

I spoke with a BOSCH technician yesterday. It seems that the relay:
0 332 014 151 has been superceded by a new number 0 332 019 151.

And he said that a 0 332 209 151 can be substituted for the older 0 332 014 113.

By the way, the difference between them, is the ".... 019 151" uses (2) 87 spade connectors. the "... 209 151" has (1) 87a and (1) 87 spade connector.

So, I just ordered some to replace mine.

Mike
Jalpa #12071

 

.... and if someone happens to be browsing past a logistics depot, the NSN appears to be 5945013841417

 

0 332 014 113 is silver
0 332 209 151 is pink


Both are shown below.
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The pink 0 332 209 151 relay switches current through the 87 terminal when activated and through the 87a terminal when deactivated (or vice versa).

So its circuitry is *different* than the 4113 silver relay which only allows current to flow through the 87 terminal when activated (no current flow when deactivated).

 

The jpeg shows the black plastic 0 332 019 151 which is the same basic type as 0 332 014 113

This can work IF there is no metal female terminal in use in the 87a position of the relay socket -- so you'd need to check this before making that substitution.

I have a feeling this relay situtation isn't going to get any better/easier in the future as I think I ran across something on the internet saying that the Bosch relay business had been recently acquired by Tyco Electronics.
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Methinks that your source mislabeled that jpeg. That looks like the 4113 circuit. The 4113 has a "no connect" position and a "connect to 87" position (two 87 terminals on that relay, but no 87a pin).

The 9151 circuit can be seen on the side of the pink relay above. In contrast to the 4113, the 9151 has one connection to the 87a terminal, and the other possible connection is to the 87 terminal (but not to both at once, just to either one).

So the 9151 can switch current from going to 87a over to going to 87 as I read it, whereas the 4113 can switch off current, or let current go to both 87 pins simultaneously.

Anyway, I'm always hesitant to disagree with you as you usually end up being correct and I end up looking silly, so please be kind if I'm wrong!

 

No, the circuit is identical for the two. The difference is that the ...4113 has a metal outer case and the 0 332 019 151 has a black plastic outer case -- here's a better pic where you can see both the Bosch PN and the circuit diagram.

PS You can't use just ...9151 as the description -- 0 332 019 151 and 0 332 209 151 are two different relays.
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