In all of the years that I have been here, I do not recall ever seeing anyone who has done a body-off or rotisserie restoration on a 3x8. The closest that I have ever seen was this pair of pictures which I found someplace on the web, many years ago. These types of restorations seem to be pretty common among the American vintage pony car folks, but seemingly not so much for our cars? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Been done. I know Bob Smith did one a number of years ago. Costs a few times the value of the car. Paying for a complete engine and trans and suspension overhaul/restoration comes close to the value. Very few who have the money and interest. Why pay that when you can go out and buy a low mile original? Vintage American car guys can flip through Hemmings and buy every part needed to build a new car. Vastly lowers costs. When I do a Ferrari motor except for bearings I have most of the parts built.
Here’s one. Currently a video series on YouTube... Image Unavailable, Please Login https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLl7EgOFY0ay1LWdbZubeTgwXcf0Q9akZK Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login You mean like this? . I am restoring a dry sump glass car that is ‘body off’.
I have already written this, but here I go again...as a Frenchman, I'm surprised how the word has changed meaning with the atlantic crossing. In French, a "Rôtisserie" is a place: a restaurant where you can eat roasted meat. The device that turns with the meat on it, to roast it, is a "rôtissoire"... Rgds
Maybe because Rôtisserie is easier to say (or should I say harder to butcher) for a native English speaker than rôtissoire. And here rotisserie is now also an adjective, as in 'a rotisserie chicken' when if you were going to completely mangle things, it should be a rotisseried chicken, or even rotissoired chicken. I would not be surprised if there were some places where it is also now a verb... Like I'll go rotisserie me a chicken!
Well, it's shorter in french, for once, David: no need for a "rotisseried, or rotissoired chicken": "un poulet rôti" is sufficient, and correct; from the verb "rôtir", to roast. No need to go "rotisserie a chicken", then, but "je vais me faire rôtir un poulet" ("I shall roast myself a chicken")... Simple, isn't it? Rgds
Sometimes words get hijacked. In America a rotisserie is an appliance. Aileron was a French word but because of Glenn Curtiss and Alexander Graham Bell it is now part of an airplane wing. Here in the USA we pull our engines out using a cherry picker but let's not even get into that.
Hey, if you think we butcher your language you should see how we butcher your food. How about some French fries, or French toast?
Absolutely, Martin! The truth is not 100 per 100 clean "cut", so to speak, but I do tend to see these more belgian than french... Rgds
Brian, Truth is that Louisiana and cajun food make honor to some old french recipees, cajun style... Rgds
Not quite sure, whether they have been invented there, but the Belgian waffles are among or the most famous. And the oldest waffle irons from the 9th century were found in Belgium and France. Best from Germany Martin
I agree and I love the food. My fathers mothers side of the family has a lot of history there. Come visit and we'll tour the French Quarter. Ever had a Hurricane?
Here you go, my 308GT4 which I'm restoring (slowly!) Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Actually, Martin, to develop further, and as an addendum, I believe that they came through Belgium yes, but that these are in fact Spanish. Not to look too pedantic, but the historian in me has to add that, notwithstanding the well documented ongoing dispute between belgians and french about the origin of the french fries, they actually may well be have been invented in Spain: Spain was probably the first european country to have discovered the potato in the New World, that is South America. One of the first actual written mention of « something that could have actually be french fries » comes from the book « Cautiverio feliz », written in 1673, by a spanish-chilean military, Francisco Nunez de Pineda y Bascunan : he describes the food offered to two indian chiefs at the fort of Nacimiento, as made of « potatoes cooked, then fried », this on November 29th, 1629. According to this theory, and as quoted by Wikipedia, these seem to have been an accompaniment to fish dishes in Galicia in the 17th century already; from Galicia, they spread to the rest of Spain, then to the “spanish Netherlands”, which, as we all know of course (…) became Belgium more than a century later. Quoting Wikipedia further, professor Paul llegens, curator of the Frietmuseumin Bruges, Belgium, believes that Saint Teresa of Avila in Spain cooked the first documented french fries in history. Rgds
Thanks Bruno, for this interesting and thorough essay. Good to learn, that it wasn't 'McCain' (do these exist in France, does anyone buy them?), who invented 'Les Pommes Frites' FChat is sometimes time consuming. One does thorough research about 'Pommes Frites' and I will meet Elring Klinger engineers this afternoon -they invited me- to discuss and clarify a headgasket issue once and for all which came up here recently. Took a free afternoon for this Best Regards Martin
Seems like 308/328 are just starting to get restored. Yeah, I know, there have been projects out there. Newman's yellow 308 project was like twelve years ago. But it seems like people have been mostly driving these cars, fixing and replacing where needed. I mean, who would do a full restoration on a 355 or a 360? There was a time in recent history when the 308/328 were just "last year's" models, restoration would have been ridiculous. But now they're reaching an age where a full restoration comes up as a possible route. Brian's point about cost vs. value has to be taken into consideration. Seems like the math doesn't even closely add up. Heck, even restorations of valuable cars with cheap parts (American muscle cars) seems to be a break even kind of deal. -F
The 308 is not a unibody construction nor is it technically a body on frame. It's closer to a space frame design though not purely.
