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  1. evandaalen

    evandaalen Formula 3
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    #1 evandaalen, Jan 8, 2005
    I know there are already several threads about black Enzos, black on black Enzos and triple black Enzos, but I couldn't resist to start another one. Let's see if I can put a big smile on NNO's face :)

    To start with, a question for NNO. Which serialnumbers do you have of black Enzos? The register shows: 128783, 131023, 132051, 132664, 133021, 133924, 133927, 134282, 135888, 136079, 136739, 138647. Are there any black Enzos missing in this list? Can you share the rest, if any?

    Now, I know there are several "unknown" cars, like the one of Matsuda and the triple black car in Hong Kong. If you're lucky, I might be able to get the number of Matsuda's car later this year, but that's another story ...

    Anyway, is it correct that there is a black Enzo in Florida, of which the serialnumber is still unknown to you?? If so, I might be able to help you, as I know the serialnumber of a BLACK Enzo registered in Florida, and the serialnumber is NOT in the list mentioned above :p. Now, I would like to know if you know more about the black Enzo in Florida (plates, location or whatever). Maybe that can confirm my info :)

    Now I'm sure that NNO will get nervous, until I will tell him the number :D Let's see what will happen :D :D :D
     
  2. ashsimmonds

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    #2 ashsimmonds, Jan 8, 2005
    pricktease. :D
     
  3. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    #3 134282, Jan 8, 2005
    LOL, spot on, mate...!


    Edvar, i know of the black Enzo in Florida... i know it has red seats... i know it's got a Tubi exhaust... Unfortunately, i don't know the serial number... i've been trying to get it for months now, but to no avail...

    So how long are you gonna keep me in suspense...? :)


    128783: This is the lowest black on black Enzo serial number i know of... This Enzo was the display model at the 2002 Paris Auto show...
    131023: Black on red; that's all i know...
    132051: Black on green; Euro spec car in the U.K.; owned by J. Kay...
    132664: This is the black on black and red car that was recently for sale at Lake Forest Sports Cars...
    133021: Black on red, this is Willi Weber's Enzo...
    133924: This is the newest Enzo i know of... Black on red California car...
    133927: Black on black - one of two that i know of, in the U.S....
    134282: This is MY Enzo - i just haven't purchased it yet... :)
    135888: Black on black Germany Enzo...
    136079: The other black on black Germany Enzo...
    136739: The only black on black Enzo in France, that i know of...
    138647: Black on natural; this Enzo is registered in Luxembourg...


    Not on that list is a black Enzo in Italy with a dark red interior with black inserts... i only know the first four digits of the serial number: 1365?? but the assembly number is: 53983... That's the only one i know of, that's not on the list...

    There was a black Enzo with a red interior at Ferrari of Long Island in New York about two years ago, that i took pictures of, personally, but never got the serial number... There might be ANOTHER black Enzo on Long Island, but i'm not sure... There's a black Enzo in California with a red interior with New York plates... i don't know the serial number of that car, either... There have been sightings of a black Enzo in Massachusetts, Nevada and Kansas City, but no confirming serial numbers... Then there's the one in Florida... Edvar...? :)
     
  4. evandaalen

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    #4 evandaalen, Jan 9, 2005
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    Well, then it's my turn to help you!

    The VIN of the black Enzo in Florida is ....

    ... Z F F C W 5 6 A 2 3 0 1 3 4 ...

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    Kidding! :D

    Now more serious: the VIN is ZFFCW56A230134281. Yes, it's Eleanor's big sister! In fact, it became very interesting to me when I noticed this morning that this should be the black Enzo that was present at the Cavallino Classic in 2004!! At that car, the VIN and the assembly numbers where taped. But that won't stop us ;) Anyway, I will explain some more details in a private mail to you!

    Oh yes, see below for a picture of 134281 I took at the Cavallino last year. It's hard to see, but the car has black+red seats. Almost perfect ;)
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  5. SupercarGuru

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  7. gtofreak

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    #7 gtofreak, Jan 11, 2005
    Here are a couple more black Enzos:

    S/N 133034, build number 83, in Hong Kong
    S/N 136728, assembly number 53983, in Rome, Italy
     
  8. gtofreak

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    #8 gtofreak, Jan 11, 2005
    Now, I know there are several "unknown" cars, like the one of Matsuda and the triple black car in Hong Kong. If you're lucky, I might be able to get the number of Matsuda's car later this year, but that's another story ...


    The Matsuda car is S/N 131023.
     
  9. gtofreak

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    #9 gtofreak, Jan 11, 2005

    Oh, BTW, there's another BLACK ENZO in Germany, living in the town of Dreieich, S/N 128XXX.
     
  10. 134282

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    #10 134282, Jan 11, 2005
    GTO, do you know the interior colors of these cars...? Do you have pictures...? Also, how do you know 133034 is build number 83...? i've spoken with several people who all said that Ferrari has not numbered the Enzos...

    That would be wonderful, but then you said:
    ...so i'm confused...

    Could that possibly be 128783, the black/black Enzo that was at the Mondial de l'Automobile in Paris, in 2002...? If not, do you know the current whereabouts of 128783...?
     
  11. evandaalen

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    #11 evandaalen, Jan 11, 2005
    NNO, gtofreak was quoting what I said. I said that I might be able to get the number later this year. But gtofreak already knew it, so I guess I can spend my time on something else in Japan ;)

    Anyway, thanks gtofreak for the additional serialnumbers. And good to see you around here ;)
     
  12. 134282

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    #12 134282, Jan 11, 2005
    Oh, ok, i see... So that's DEFINITELY Matsuda's Enzo's serial number... Damn, i can't believe it was that easy for you folks - i've been looking for that information for MONTHS...

    Thanks, guys... :)
     
  13. gtofreak

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    #13 gtofreak, Jan 11, 2005
    128783 is owned by somebody in Paris, France.
     
  14. 134282

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    #14 134282, Jan 11, 2005
    Figures... Do you have pictures of the other cars mentioned, minus Matsuda's Enzo...?
     
  15. gtofreak

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    #15 gtofreak, Jan 12, 2005
    NNO: Yes, I do, but for copyright reasons prefer not to publish any.
     
  16. gtofreak

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  17. 134282

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    #17 134282, Jan 12, 2005
    Understood, say no more...

    Freak, thank you... i don't have many pictures of 132051, so those almost doubled my collection...
     
  18. gaggi

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    #18 gaggi, Jan 12, 2005
    Isn't/wasn't 128783 owned by Jean Todt (who owns a red one too) ?

    I heard that a black/red in Japan was 131023, then when seing Matsuda's car pictures (black/red), I deduced it was likely to be 131023, but could never checked myself. Can you confirm 100% it is 131023?

    Greg
     
  19. Doug.

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    #19 Doug., Jan 12, 2005
    I believe that car belongs to Steve Wynn, although he most likely never drives it.

    -Doug
     
  20. Huskerbill

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    #20 Huskerbill, Jan 12, 2005
    I know of one that is driven often. I will be getting my first ride in it this spring. ;-)

    And I will take massive amounts of pics of it.

    And then I will post em for everyone's enjoyment.
     
  21. gtofreak

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    #21 gtofreak, Jan 13, 2005
    Yes, 128783 is also owned by Jean Todt.
    Yes, 131023 is owned by Yoshiho Matsuda.
     
  22. amenasce

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    #22 amenasce, Jan 13, 2005
    Todt owns 2 Enzo ? Weird considering how serious he is.
     
  23. 134282

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    #23 134282, Jan 13, 2005
    Bill is it black...? When you go, can you take pictures of the serial number as well...?


    128783 belongs to Todt...?!?

    Freak, do you know the serial number of Todt's other Enzo...? The red one with the gun metal grey wheels...?
     
  24. gtofreak

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    #24 gtofreak, Jan 13, 2005
    Yes, he has two. The red one is not rosso corsa but brighter in rosso scuderia and the wheels are not gunmetal, they were just terribly dirty when he came to St. Cloud in 2003 for the Louis Vuitton Concours. Plates CD064. Serial unknown.
     
  25. 134282

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    #25 134282, Jan 13, 2005
    Ok, thanks...

    Earlier in the thread, i asked:
    Can you shed any light on this...? You seem to know a lot about Enzos, serial numbers and the respective owners...
     
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