Best Value-Holding F430 Spider spec?

IMO the percentage of buyers for your car goes way up in the red/beige F1 combo.
Eric

 

BTW i passed on 15 cars in 2 months looking for one that had the CC brakes.
Eric

 

If you are buying a car for the next buyer then speak with two or three dealers in your area. They know more than anyone else. Your time frame covers a big range as well. It sounds like you are young or not well financed and are trying to enjoy but also play it safe regarding a new Ferrari. Having to keep on eye on the odometer is no way to live imho. Best

 

Now standard as of '08

 

I'd buy the car for you, not the next guy. But I understand the question

FWIW - I think there will always be people who really want a three pedal car. If you take 360 as an example, there is really no premium price for an F1. Realistically that means the F1 cars have actually depreciated more. Of course, some will say this is a result of the "issues" with the 360 F1 system. (Which are of course eliminated in the F430.)

Buy what YOU want. Ferrari ownership isn't really an investment plan!

 

grigio silverstone, red interior is very common too

 

I do think a zero option car might be a harder sell than one with a lot of options, but I doubt you will get enough extra on resale to pay for those pricey bits. I would buy what you want (color/trans/options) and not worry about it. It's a friggin impractical $200+K CAR!

 

Go with white. In the time frame you reference (10 years), the regions of the world in which white is the more desirable color will represent increased demand and influence on the rest of the world. Net - make the bet on leading indicators, not historical.

 

The contemporary Ferrari market has shown us that there is very little demand or value in the 3 pedal car as F1 equipped 360's represent more then 95% of the production. I don't see F1 equipped cars depreciating greater then 3 pedal cars. The 3 pedal car maybe considered rare by some however, the demand is far and few between.

What 360 F1 'issues' are you referring to?

 

Not called resale red for nothing!
Red/tan,red calipers,daytona seats, electric seats,F1,yellow tach,fender shield. This would be the minimum IMO.
Good luck.

 

Hello From Sunny Minami Azabu!

Point Number 1, the biggest way to make your car a bit special in Tokyo at time of resale is order RHD. There are very few around in Tokyo but since you live here you know that - if you are in banking you know that most Brits, Aussies, and some of the Asian guys, Hong Kong, Singapore etc would not even consider LHD cars. From past experience and friends in most of the dealers this is DEFINITELY the case. Despite what Cornes might tell you.

Point Number 2 - the most expensive resale colour is BLACK - check car sensor - ask a second hand reseller to find you a car and they will get you 20 odd red / black or beige but very few black. The worst colour in Tokyo is silver (the dark greys are OK)

6 Speed or F1 are OK just know that Cornes will tell you themselves that depending on how much city driving you do in Tokyo (lots of gridlock in the city) expect to pay JPY 500,000 - JPY 600,000 for a new clutch at some point.

Point Number 3, Japs don't give a hoot about options, don't expect to get anything back from dishing out big cash for options. I know of a couple of guys who paid JPY 26,000,000 - 28,000,0000 for well optioned cars only to be offered 20,000,000 a year later when the firm said your on your way to HK or SIN.

Point Number 4, most Ferrari's depreciate in Japan UNLESS they are the latest model and or have just been released. You can go to an auction and get an excellent 2006 coupe today for between JPY 18,000,000 and JPY 19,000,000 - will check out Spider prices at the moment. I was offered a 2006 6 speed with 400 km on the clock on the road for JPY 20,000,000 - new price 6 months before was JPY 25,000,000. My friend and owner of a big dealership told me not to pay a cent over 18,000,000 for it and I didn't take it even though I could have! (My company is sending me to Singaopore this year! Lucky i didn't take it)

Let us know how you go! Especially if you can get a RHD or not.

Lastly, bit of a personal question, did you order a while ago or do you know someone who is happy give you there slot? Or have just recently walked into a dealer? Just interested to find out what the current wait list is...

Really lastly, had the pleasure of a Lambo E Gear the last few days, 2007 car, amazing machine but what a pain E-Gear is trying to park in Tokyo!! 6 speed all the way for me!

 

I don't think any F430 will have a problem finding a buyer, but if you go with a green car with bordeaux interior, you might have to wait a while to find that person. Red cars probably have a larger pool of buyers, but you could get more money if you were patient with a TDF Blue, or silver car since they are harder to find and some people really want those colors. If you offered me a Red car or a TDF, I would be more inclined to go with the TDF, so I would not have as many buying options out there since those cars are more seldom seen on the used market. Like I said before, buy what makes you happy.

 

just what the good doc said!!!!

 

A thought:

Frankly speaking, Ferrari ownership in the non-racing venue, as most of us, I thought, was for the enjoyment of driving the cars period. That being said why should anyone who is truly an enthusiast be concerned with resale during their ownership. A Ferrari should be bought with options that the owner likes with little thought of a return on money when it is sold for a newer model. Maybe I am in the minority here but I hope not, this is a hobby that we all enjoy and I for one would reconsider if any financing should take place to support a hobby. It seems more prudent to put your money somewhere else to make enough money to support your hobby without having to finance it.
That way you won't have to worry about your return when it comes time to sell and buy your next Ferrari.
Just a thought; "C'est la vie ".

 

PCH - I'm not sure that 95% of 360s are F1. On "issues" that's why I put in quotes. If you search this board you will find many who comment that it shifts poorly, eats clutches, etc, etc. I don't agree these points, own an F1 and love it.

 

Certainly not an exact # however, I'm confident it falls between 90-95%. The negative issues that are 'typically' associated with the F1 tranny are either a result of incorrect system set up or driver induced.

 

Agreed on driver issues and set-up. My F1 is great!!

 

Yes on the three pedal car!! I second the opinion of buying it for yourself. In my situation, I ordered all the offered carbon fiber packages. I know I will be up against other cars that do not have any carbon options when re-selling. I'm not sure of the next buyer will value it like I did.