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  1. Archer911

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    Having just gotten my 1984 308 last week I immediately set to removing about 20 pounds of misc electrical crap that previous owners had installed.
    Then for fresh oil and filter and it was time for a trip to the gas station and my first real drive. NOPE, not going anywhere as the fuel pump began to leak (I never touched it, I swear). I tightened the connections but to no avail as it's still leaking.

    So, I need to order a new fuel pump (looks like the original is still in place) and thought I'd include a new accumulator, fuel filter, and a hose or two.

    Checked out Algar and Ricambi. Algar wants 369.95 for a fuel pump while Ricambi wants 395.00. Not much difference there. When it comes to the accumulator it's 410.00 from Algar and 199.00 from Ricambi. YIKES!

    Question to you aficionados—where do you buy your parts? I've started to feel that I'll be seeing the UPS man every week...

    Thanks
     
  2. GordonC

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    Those are good sources, but you need to get to know Superformance in the UK Superformance: Ferrari Parts for 246, 308, 348, 355, 360 and all of the Ferrari range as well. They are often much cheaper than the US-based vendors, and often have items available which aren't available over here.

    For example - a 308 QV fuel pump (about 2/3 of the way down this page Carburettor & Fuel System Parts for Ferrari 308, 208, 288 GTO & F40 - Superformance ) is £103.10, or about $130 US!! (Exchange rates for UK to US are a bargain for US residents right now) While shipping can be more expensive than from US-based vendors, they are fast... for me in Canada, it's often no more expensive to ship items from the UK than from the US.

    Also check out www.trutlands.com , and there are quite a few more great vendors for 308 parts.
     
  3. Dave rocks

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    Algar is an excellent parts supplier. Another great, (possibly the best prices) source is Eurospares.
     
  4. Archer911

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    Thanks guys! There are winter projects I can use the UK sources for but need the full system components asap if I expect to drive the 308 this Fall.

    From reading through the forums it also looks like I should replace all the fuel lines as long as I have the tanks empty.
     
  5. johnk...

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    Can't argue with replacing the rubber fuel lines if you like, but I have to ask, why do you think you need to replace the fuel pump and accumulator?
     
  6. Dave rocks

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    Eurospares ships same or next day and you get the parts in a day. Don't assume it takes weeks. Often faster than suppliers in the US
     
  7. yelcab

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    nobody mentioned GT Car Parts? Also a good source.
     
  8. tinterow

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    Just did some business with ItalianCarParts.com and was satisfied...ask them to send you a catalogue :)
     
  9. 308 milano

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    Another vote for Rock Auto For Relays etc.
     
  10. GordonC

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    Along with Rock Auto for Bosch parts, also check https://www.autohausaz.com Autohaus AZ - good pricing and availability too.

    The Scuderia Rampante Innovations, SRI, fuel hose kit from Ricambi is highly recommended - filler hose, crossover tube hoses, breather hoses, tank to fuel pump hose. Their own grade of hose that is not affected by ethanol in modern fuels.

    If you have the tanks empty to replace fuel lines, then you also want to replace the heater hose that runs through the left side rocker panel, since you need to partially remove the left fuel tank to do that one. Then you might as well replace all the coolant and heater hoses (SRI has a kit for the large diameter coolant hoses as well).

    You see how this "while I'm in there..." is going to go, right? ;)
     
  11. Archer911

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    The fuel pump is leaking and tightening made no difference. Both the fuel pump and accumulator look original (all that patina) so I figure at 32 years old it's time for a change.

    I did read about replacing the sealing rings but if I do that and it still leaks the time I have wasted will be significant.
     
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  13. 308 milano

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  14. johnk...

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    Most of the flexible hoses are on the low pressure side of the fuel system. Nothing wrong with SAE J30R7 rated hose there. Metric sizes are available from BellMetric.com along with a wide variety of otherwise hard to find metric hardware.
     
  16. Archer911

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    Thanks for the advice and links guys. What a great forum this is!!! Learning so much here.

    As mentioned I was able to slightly tighten the banjo fitting (5 degrees or so) while holding the proximal nut so no stress transferred to the hard line to the accumulator. It still leaked.

    What I did not check is whether the hard line fitting to the accumulator is the culprit.

    Since the area between the banjo and pump are wet I am assuming that's where the leak is. I did not run the car while on the lift (I'm too chicken to do that) .

    More diagnosis this morning before ordering anything...
     
  17. 308 milano

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    John thanks! Was not aware of Bellmetric.com. Will look through their website when I get home later this week as I have many miscellaneous odds and ends needed for the 82 GTSi
     
  18. waymar

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    Eurtonelectric.com great source for brushes for fan motors
     
  19. dflett

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    Maranello Classic Parts are also in the UK and are sometimes much cheaper for OEM parts than here. All new 'classic' Ferrari parts come from them anyway to dealers here. It depends where you are in the US but in the trip-state area here, they have always managed next day (evening) after order confirmation for me and the shipping is cheap.

    The issue I have with superformance is they are slow to ship and give you no communication... not even a tracking number unless you ask them.
     
  20. Archer911

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    The leaking fuel issue was really getting to me. I put the car back up on the lift and gave it another look (It's your influence guys). I decided to give the banjo bolt another try, this time with a 1/2" ratchet (longer lever). With a good purchase on the proximal nut I was able to tighten it another 5 degrees. UREKA, upon start-up no leak present!

    Bolstered by my small victory I decided to drive the 3 miles to AutoZone to buy fuses for my newly acquired Birdman fuse blocks. No luck with those values. Onto Westmarine just a tad down the road as they would surely have them. On the way, in fairly heavy traffic, I sought to adjust my driver's mirror as it had started to sag. One touch and it went into limp wet noodle territory...how embarrassing and unsettling as the windshield rear view mirror was nearly worthless because it was so loose. I was essentially blind to any rear activity.

    Once at Westmarine I was able to buy some allen wrenches for the mirror readjustment but again the fuses they had were not 308 friendly.

    Fuel level was now on my mind for the return trip home. When I went for the test drive at F40 Mike had to get gas before we hit the road. In doing so the filler didn't cooperate and kept chucking gas back up to then flow down the side of the car. He attributed that to the station's nozzle. Well the same thing happened to me. I wasn't going to put more than 5 gallons in the tank (not quite sure yet of my repair) but even that was tedious as gas backed up at any more than a slight trickle. I guess it's time to search the threads on why that happens. The joys of vintage car ownership......
     
  21. johnk...

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    Again, gas filling thing is common. Don't insert the nozzle all the way and angle it around. You will find a position that allows you to fill more rapidly. But some stations flow so fast you can never open the nozzle fully. Don't bother searching threads. There is no fix other than messing with the filler nozzle position. It's just part of 308 ownership.
     
  22. GordonC

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    Hmmm... there may be a fix after all - I expect that this is a US-spec issue only. The filler on my Euro 84 QV has no restriction in it, it's a straight 2" or 2.5" pipe all the way through the connecting hose into the tank. If you could find the Euro filler neck, you would certainly eliminate the problem. You wouldn't be US regulation compliant, though.
     
  23. Archer911

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    Thanks for the head's up on the refuel idiosyncrasy guys. Man, has someone written a field manual for this era of Ferrari? Seems like I learn something about these unconventional animals every day!
     
  24. Archer911

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    I did order the SRI Hose Kit as others advised. I wonder if their part will alleviate the slow fill issue?
     

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