Bernie Carl sues Perego Cars over 365 GTC

I hear that Bernie Carl is an avid collector..

Any Links to what he has in store...age??

 

It should be interesting to learn how this plays out. Had a similar thing happen on a M&L Cobra Replica some years back. Deposit taken, contract in hand, and darn if the Minnesota seller didn't sell it to some collector in Chicago.

 

….considering the non-matching paint on the RF…..

There are better out there…..

 

Something tells me bernie has an extensive collection including a 250 GTO

 

1962 Ferrari 250 GTO: Joan & Bernard Carl | Main gallery | Photos | Motorsport.com

 

Even if he gets a judgement in N.Y., good luck collecting that from Italy.

I hope he's a young man...

 

I know who bought the car.

Was sold as restored with a rebuilt motor and was barely either of those.

 

Unfortunately that's the car business.

 

Yep, nothing new here...

Had the same happen to me about 20 years ago with Nick Faure (Surrey, UK dealer). Agreed the price, bought the car and completed the paperwork. Valet the following day before collection and yes, phone call in the morning to say the car was no longer for sale! Sold to another guy that paid more money after viewing the car AFTER it was sold to me.

Forget legal action, it's not worth the long and drawn out distress and the cost. There's plenty more cars out there.
Moral: Forget the Valet or any small work, just drive the car away at the earliest opportunity you have.

 

You could have taken him to court and won quite easily for any extra cost incurred to replace the car that you agreed to buy with an equal car and retrieved your legal expenses.

 

Trade for Amanda Knox?

 

Sometimes its not about the money. I hope he makes them as uncomfortable as possible. I would dare say if he lives in Southampton and has a collection including a 250 it may not be about the money at all.

Sometimes people need to be taught a lesson. Or at least punished for their actions.

Good for him.

 

He probably has a nice collection. He also has or had a 268SP in addition to the GTO and along with being a very big real estate attorney he has been well known to sue many people who have crossed him. Perego is going to have a rough time with him..........

 

Car dealers, lawyers and the Italian justice system: That's the trifecta of...something I'd best keep to myself.

Had the same thing happen on a new car deal a few years back (they even faked the paperwork). I elected to let it go -- resentments and lawsuits are like a cancer in one's life. I hope this is resolved quickly.

 

Wise words

 

Bob seems to have a history of thinking that things should always go his way, as this more recent article appears to substantiate:

Millionaire owner of Flathead Lake mansion sentenced for groping nurse

 

^ that type of behavior without prior history suggests something like age related disorder.

 

FORT Knox perhaps,...

 

Hi Darren. Lived in CHI,had a few Dinos. Some knowledge of Faure,Wormley,thats not the way to treat a client. Would like to chat re your current situation. We have a 246GTS local.

 

PM sent. thanks

 

No one likes to get into lawsuits, but as one post said, there are times when it is a matter of principal.

I enjoy collecting -- and driving old cars. Unfortunately, a situation in which there is so much money crossing hands (and borders) with no regulatory structure just invites people to cheat and acts as a magnet for scam artists. I find it very sad that so many frauds occur in the world that we share as collectors.

Having some resources and having been trained as a lawyer (albeit without having actually practiced law for may years), I feel some responsibility to seek redress for such frauds because only when victims do stand up to the fraudsters will the market begin to be a more secure place to do business for all of us.

I am well aware of the challenges of suing someone in Italy. I filed suit in Italy over an F40 (that I paid for but was never delivered) the year my youngest daughter was born (1989). She is about to graduate from law school herself, but the case is still ongoing. (I won a judgment two years ago, but there is an appeal pending which could take 5 years).

Nonetheless, when there is a purpose involved -- not just money -- it is much easier to be patient. If more of the people who are cheated chose to stand up rather than just give up -- because it is hard -- maybe it would be more difficult for fraudsters to pervert the passion for cars that we all share.