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  1. dmark1

    dmark1 F1 World Champ
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    Unequivocally FALSE. KSMO remains the only airport ban for the Piaggio. Typical hangar flying talk unsubstantiated in reality.
     
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  2. ChipG

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    ok yes, only 1 in the USA, Santa Monica but many others limit the takeoff hours like John Wayne does in Orange County, a Piaggio 180 can not take off at night time there, below are the aircraft that are not allowed to operate at night:

    Aircraft Presumptively Incapable of Nighttime Departure Operations:
    • Gulfstream II, IIB, III
    • HS125-1A-600 (Rolls Royce Viper engines)
    • Jetstar II
    • Learjet 23, 24, 25, 28, 29
    • Piaggio P180
    • Sabreliner 40, 60, 65, 70, 75
    • Shooting Star T33/F80
    Link for reference: https://www.ocair.com/generalaviation/noise
     
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  3. technom3

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    I've been omin and out if John Wayne on a citation iii and we always had to beat feet to get out of there by 10pm on Saturday night.

    The pilots (I am not one so I can and will likely sound like a jackass here) always thought it was funny to be extra noises as we took off at 950.

    If I recall correctly they would run it up seemingly on the brakes for maybe 1 second or 2. Then come up just off the run way. Tuck the gear and use what seemed the entirety of the runway then start a pretty steep climb. This is how I remember it... I'm not a pilot. Please go easy on me. But it was something to the effect of utilizing the ground effect and then sort of launching a sound wave at the end of the runway.

    Could have just been all theatrics and an excuse to do something fun...

    If nothing else it was memorable.
     
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  4. ChipG

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    It was also landing, they could not land after 10pm until I think 6 or 8 am, talk about a pain in the ass if your 5 min late.
     
  5. technom3

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    Again speaking completely out of my butt here...

    From what I remember it was just a fine. Im sure a cost benefit was made for those that had big thirsty planes.
     
  6. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    I like that. Purposely make extra noise right before the imposed deadline to piss off the people more. :)
     
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