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  1. lazarus

    lazarus Rookie

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    In a word NO.The T125 became the T252.I do not believe that a T125 was ever built.The drawings that I have indicate that it was just an idea of Colombo.
     
  2. lazarus

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    #77 lazarus, Dec 16, 2009
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    If you open the "hood" of a T252 [ like my one here ] you will find a four cylinder T252 motor like my one here.
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  3. Olivier NAMECHE

    Olivier NAMECHE F1 Veteran

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    Lazarus,
    Yes I know who you are speaking about....RDI
    Unfortunately tomorrow I will be in Germany for business and will go only to Bugatti exhibition on next 10th January in my quality of LCB President and with some of my members...
     
  4. James_Woods

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    Lazarus - my mistake. I was just counting the spark plug wires from that post on page 2.
     
  5. krisdisk

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    I'll see you there Olivier, I was planning on going on the 10th as well...
     
  6. lazarus

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  8. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Great photos, thanks. I remember the old days when there were not too many Ferraris and there was a Bugatti/Ferrari club. The good old days. Two different makes of hand-built cars, both with outstanding technical features and coachbuilt bodywork.

    Taz
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  9. Patrick Faucompre

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    #84 Patrick Faucompre, Jan 1, 2010
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    Dear Oliver,
    This is amazing: I knew this place very well, I was there 20 years ago, and could not identify this " Bugatti". Absolutely not on a Bugatti chassis today. Why not the 1952 Ghia-Aigle body (a non-factory delivery anyway, as the factory stopped the T.57 in August 1939). And later fitted on a custom-made chassis going from right to left hand drive? Very possible.
    The husband of the lady didn't know either at the time. The Citroen CX was his daily transportation and he put an amazing mileage on it. (the second one was a spare car).
    There were other Bugatti stuff, but long gone, by now.
    Yes, the place exist!
    Thanks for refreshing my memory!
    PF
     
  10. Olivier NAMECHE

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    Patrick thank you for your comment...

    Hoping this will s...up some sceptical mouths around this thread !

    As I wrote the old Lady spoke about "Bugatti", I never affirmed myself it was a Bugatti, reason why I was asking for "identification"...

    Happy new year to all...
     
  11. Registro Pietro Frua

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    #86 Registro Pietro Frua, Jan 3, 2010
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    I have added two more photos of the lost 1952 Bugatti T57 Ghia Aigle in comparison with Olivier's first photo. I think it is obvious that Olivier's barn find has a different body.

    Stefan Dierkes
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  12. dbw

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    just an observation..as the ex owner of a stab farina bodied siata daina and having spent a lot of time around siatas that mouth has a mighty familar shape.....
     
  13. GrayTA

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    I found this to be a wonderful fantastic thread!! Thanks for a great read!!!

    Any further news? I would love to see photos of the Lambo you purchase Olivier!!

    I lived in Belgium for six years and only moved back to the states a year ago. Its a shame we didnt have the chance to meet up. I went to Spa and the Nurburgring days frequently.


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  14. texasmr2

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    I agree as these kinda threads make me giddy with envy in the most respectful manner, well done lazarus.

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  15. lazarus

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    you will be pleased to know that we now have for the T251 two new blocks [ in magnesium as original ] and two new heads plus several other castings from the original patterns.So we continue !
     
  16. krisdisk

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    Does anyone know what actually happened to the interesting barnfind in France?
     
  17. velocetwo

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    hmmm
     
  18. Meeyatch1

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    Do you have pics of the rest of the cars? That would be quite a sight!
     
  19. Olivier NAMECHE

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    Well, to be honest I never accepted to buy from the old woman the whole deal of craps... I still have the hand on it...I presume...and she still has to come back to me regarding my offer... all I want is the Islero & Lambo stuffs.
     
  20. olinde

    olinde Karting

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    Olivier, has anything happened regarding this find?
     
  21. Olivier NAMECHE

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    Unfortunately...not ! The old lady doesn't move a foot forward and I don't want to invest in what I don't need... she is tuff, firm !
     
  22. zzoott

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    #97 zzoott, Feb 7, 2011
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    --- DBW got it right back in his only post to this tread in January, 2010 - this is undoubtedly a 1952 Stab-bodied Siata Daina, as, from the badly cobbled faux Bugatti grille, to the frame/mounts and engine bay, to the absolute deal-maker, LHD and the very particular Siata-specific steering wheel, everything screams Siata Daina. Great job, DBW, wherever you are.

    And, lazarus, whilst this started out as a "barn find", it ended up as so much more than that - thanks for your fantastic posts and photos. What a treasure you have sought to continue to protect and promote! Bravo!
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  23. Olivier NAMECHE

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    Do you have other pictures of that model ???

    You wake up my curiosity again !!!!
     
  24. zzoott

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    ...but bear in mind this Siata models were typically steel-bodied, Fiat-powered Italian cars - interesting in their own right, with a bit of a following, in roadster, coupe, and later, sedan forms. Try this link for more information - certainly not a Bugatti - and maybe no real value in this bit of a remainin shell other than the odd spares: http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z17793/Siata-Daina.aspx
     
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