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  1. FerrariF50lover

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    My teacher explained why some books are banned. Wheres waldo shows a guys butt at a beach. I mean its a cartoon butt lets be mature.One of my favs is private parts by howard stern. The books are not by most serious such as the anarchist cookbook but by the numbers of challanges they have. Another book is hitlers book im to lazy to look threw it. I read of mice and men cover to cover, it was actually not a bad book but it was violent. But not violent enough to be banned at my school. Some books are banned or challenged for absoutly stupid reasons.
     
  2. SrfCity

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  3. otaku

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    Yeah its banned book week. All the libraries put the potentially banned books out in front. I've read many of them. Thank god to my knowledge none have been banned some of these potentially banned books are excellent!
     
  4. TexasMike

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    Yep...I have seen several shows where they said the person bought that book before they committed a murder.
    It is definitely banned by court order.
     
  5. Dino Martini

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    I think you are wrong. The Catcher in the Rye was one of the best books ive read. I liked it, and im 13. Re-read it perhaps
     
  6. Sempre_gilles

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    Here in the Netherlands "Mein Kampf" of Adolf Hitler is banned.
     
  7. DavkeG

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    Oh yeah, negationism is illegal over here, so any ook denying the Holocaust would be banned per definition.
     
  8. Sempre_gilles

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    "Mein Kampf" is NOT banned in Belgium. If you live in the Netherlands and want to buy a copy (either in German or in Dutch) the easiest way is to order it at proxis.be (a Belgian version of Amazon).
     
  9. FerrariF50lover

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    We have a copy in my school library and some one i know has done a book report on it. Howard Sterns book is banned also.
     
  10. Vang

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    Yeah, I'm not sure you quite got it. Not saying it was fantastic, but it's deeper than you think it is.
     
  11. Sempre_gilles

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    IMHO the banning of books is always arbitrary. I do understand why "Mein Kampf" is banned in the Netherlands, but "das Kapital", the collected works of Lenin, Stalin or the "red book" of Mao are not.

    Why? Probably because (in contrast to Nazi terror) we Dutch never suffered from the Red terror and therefore do not know firsthand what idiots are able to using these books as an excuse....
     
  12. Eric5273

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    I'm not sure about Stalin, but I can tell you that books written by Lenin, Mao & Marx do not preach hate of any kind. Have you ever read any of them? Perhaps you should. It would probably change your opinion of them.

    Mein Kampf specifically preaches hate. I do not think it should be banned as I do not agree with the concept of "thought crime", but there is a clear difference.
     
  13. 308geo

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    The car they were driving in in the beginning was the FERRARI DINO concept car! You know the yellow on that had a targa open roof & the rear spoiler on hte stands....I'll see if I can find a picture of it. I know that I have a 1/43rd scale diecast of it at home.
     
  14. darth550

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    Dianetics should be banned.
     
  15. Rachane

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    Go to Amazon.com and do a book-search for "Final Exit"; you'll find:

    Final Exit (Third Edition) : The Practicalities of Self-Deliverance and Assisted Suicide for the Dying (Paperback)
    by Derek Humphry

    Not officially banned as far as I know, but always causes a furor because of its topic.
     
  16. shiggins

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    I wanted to buy Mien Kempf. I am a big history buff and wanted to get some insight. Anyways, went to Indigo/Chapters and they don't sell it. It's banned from their store. The lady (jewish) who owns the store refuses to sell it. Struck me as odd. It's not like he's kicking back on some tropical island collecting the royalties from his book sales. Hitler also ordered books burned to "protect" the German people. Interesting parallel.
     
  17. Sempre_gilles

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    One of the paradoxes of communism is that reality in communist states was in complete contradiction to written official statements.

    E.g.. the constitution of the USSR stated that all nations in this union were equal, in reality Russia was dominant and all other states were forced to stay into the union by violence. In the late thirties the USSR got a new consititution which was the most advanced in the world in terms of human and civil rights. At the same time a couple of million people were in the Gulag for no reason...

    So what does all these kind words in books of Lenin and Stalin mean? Perhaps they never preached hate and violence, but they certainly practised it.
     
  18. Eric5273

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    Lenin was a good guy. He died in 1925, long before any of the human rights abuses. Trotsky was supposed to be his sucessor, but Stalin seized power and killed off most of his political opponents, which included most of those in Lenin's inner circle. Trotsky himself had to go into exile, and was later murdered by the KGB. For all practical purposes, it was a coup.

    Those who lead the 1917 revolution (and even the earlier 1905 revolt) were not much different than our own founding fathers. Their goals simply were derailed several years later by a power hungry dictator.

    Just as one should not use Pinochet's rule in Chile to state that Capitalism results in human rights abuses, one should not use the Soviet Union to say that all Communism must result in human rights abuses. The Soviet Union was a very poor example of communism. Karl Marx would not have been happy had he lived to see it.

    If you read Marx and Lenin, what becomes obvious is that they had visions that have not yet been reached. That does not however mean that such visions can never be reached. Ever watch Star Trek?
     
  19. Sempre_gilles

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    Big, very big mistake! This fairy tale was told many times after it became obvious (even for the most ardent communists] that Stalin was not "father Stalin" after all but a mass murderer. According to this fairy tale Lenin and his close collaborators were decent people whose good intentions were abused by the evil Josef Stalin.
    However, recent studies, also by Russians (read the biography of Dimitri Volkagonov!) have shown that the terror started in Lenin's time and was started and approved by Lenin and all others (Trotsky included) in his government. Of course this has been a very controversial thought for some people because it shows that terror has been an intregral part of communist thinking and not the abberation of some leaders.
     
  20. Sempre_gilles

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    By the way, perhaps a good idea to stop this discussion here? After all, this is not the section on politics....
     
  21. DGS

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    "Heart of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad.

    Not banned, but controlled by the FDA as a prescription cure for insomnia. ;)
     

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