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Baby Boomer Motorcycle Deaths

Discussion in 'Motorcycles & Boats' started by jsa330, Jan 24, 2005.

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  1. robert biscan

    robert biscan F1 Veteran

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    I have been riding motorcycles since 1969 and curently have 4 harleys. I have seen a big change in the type of rider. Many of the new guys never rode before and now decide to be easy rider. I agree that I think if you start yung that your body learns easier. Also the traffic is at least 4 times heavier than in 1970. Everybody has a car and a family of four has 4 cars instead of one or maybe 2 back then. Harley made 36k bikes worldwide productiion in 1986 and will make 400k this year. That's another reason. The old live to ride, ride to live guys are nearly gone and it's a new breed who can afford a 25k bike. Most guys who ride harleys drink and drive.
     
  2. robert biscan

    robert biscan F1 Veteran

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    Anybody who hates Harleys is someone who never gave them a chace. They are just fun and that's the deal.
     
  3. writerguy

    writerguy F1 Veteran

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    they are fun, yes. But you get a better handling, better performing, better all around bike when you get a honda Shadow for a fraction of the price. The New Guys are keeping those unattainable prices sky high. and you are right the Live to Ride are a rare breed to day.

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    Dick Doc the 999 is a LOT of bike. OMG it has been a while since i have swung a leg over anything this quick.
     
  4. UroTrash

    UroTrash Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I bet it is.

    Unfortumately...


    Bangle is to BMW

    as

    Terblance is to Ducati.


    Tamburini is the master, long live MV.
     
  5. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Hubert - you'll note I have referred to racing pedigree thru and thru. Not technological innovations or advancements in and of themselves. What advanced the other marques was "how do we beat *Harley on 2 wheels*|*Ferrari on 4 wheels*?"
     
  6. jsa330

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    I've looked in the motorcycle classified section from time to time in the local paper--Dallas Morning News--there are always dozens of late model Harleys for sale. Looks like a lot of middle aged guys get the fever, buy one, ride a lot for a year or two, then it sits, then they sell it. Kind of like pool tables and sports cars.
     
  7. UroTrash

    UroTrash Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Or wives...
     
  8. 208 GT4

    208 GT4 Formula 3

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    I've ridden bikes since I was 22, and currently have a Superblackbird.

    Am now 35 and have never had an accident, the secret of my success it to ride slow, except for the wide straight bits.
     
  9. sjb509

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    I agree that Tamburini is currently the top designer in the world. The MV is the best looking bike ever put into production IMO. However, living 4 hours from the nearest dealer makes me think twice about owning one. They are not known for being exactly stone reliable. The 916 family and even Pasos just continue to age gracefully. Even now, 15 years, later a Ferrari-red 907ie will stop traffic.

    Terblance has designs that I call "2 year" designs, meaning that it takes me a couple of years to warm up to the design. I didn't like the ST2 in 1998, by 2000 I seriously considered trading my 851 in on one. The Supersports looked gaudy and overstyled when it debuted in 1998, today I'd buy one over just about any Japanese or American bike.

    I was very vocal on the Ducati web boards of my loathing of the 999. The muffler, the air dams, the overstyled headlights, I just hated it. Over time I think I've realized that expecting a bike with the visual and performance impact the 916 had was an impossible feat. You could argue even Tamburini was unable to duplicate its impact with the MV. The 999, while definitely different than the 916 in styling, also is a major improvement in some of the drawbacks of the 916 design. So what did I do?
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    Yesterday I put my deposit down on a 999.
     
  10. robert biscan

    robert biscan F1 Veteran

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    I owned a 916 and loved it. You just have to go 140mph on the straights or 70mph in the twisties to enjoy it fully. A Harley if fun at 60mph on the straights and won't go 70 on the twisties.
     
  11. UroTrash

    UroTrash Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Good job! when does it come in? what color? I'm surprised they don't have them in stock.


    BTW, the MV service is a problem, when I had mine, I took it to Birmingham which is ~250 miles or so. Not very convenient!


    Edit; BTW, I'd still rather have a 1995 900SS rather than a 2000 900SS by a country mile.
     
  12. sjb509

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    Should have clarified, I bought it from a dealer in Arizona and it is being shipped here. It is a leftover 2003 Biposto in red, it comes with the original exhaust and a Termi CF exhaust as well. Negotiating on a new bike that has had a few birthdays is much easier than the newest 999 model. The new 999 in black is totally bad-a$$ though.

    I had found a used MV-F4 1+1, and also considered stepping up to the MV1000. After weighing the pros and cons, I decided on the Ducati.

    I actually agree with you on the Supersport bikes. While I like the current body, the old '91-'97 style is my preference. During my search I also found a rare black 1992 900SS in KC, but decided for once I wanted a new Ducati rather than an old one. Someday I'll get a 996, and maybe a 907ie for cruising around.
     
  13. jharkercfduc

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    hell is the period of time inbetween the down payment and when you get the bike. congrats.... I have still not warmed up to the new look, but you dont look at it when you ride it though, and they feel good on the road. I will continue to get picked on and passed by others with my old 916. I parked next to a mv f4 last night and it was hot.
     
  14. sjb509

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    The wait isn't bad so far, it snowed all stinking day today. It's not like I'd be using it anyway.
     
  15. writerguy

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    Still adapting riding position to the 999


    Very comfortable

    biggest problem is keeping it in the vicinity of the speed limit..Digital speedo is out of line of sight. AND keeping it in the area of speedlimit is very hard YAJUSTWANNA open it up...
     
  16. jharkercfduc

    jharkercfduc Karting

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    I have only been on a 999 once, and it was fast. at least coming from my 916. post pics of your new toy.
     
  17. Steve Marschman

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    I've had my TR since 2001. Great touring car, reasonable cornering, ~400 crank hp with a Tubi... now move ahead to this past summer. I spotted a Suzuki 650 V-Strom getting on a ferry while visiting in Seattle... feel in love with the look of the bike and within 2 months I had one. 2000 miles later I got a SV1000S, 4000 miles later and I'm sitting here in my shop putting the first coat of wax on my 2005 Hayabusa. What an absolutely amazing bike. 158+ rear wheel horsepower and a flat torque curve. This thing feels like it has an electric motor. I've only put 300 miles on it and during the break in period you are not to exceed 5500 rpm. That translates into something like 90 mph in 6th gear. I doubt I will do the mods to allow mine to exceed the ~185 mph top speed that the bike is limited to... what for? The bike is a well balanced, incredible in the corners (for a 525 lb bike) , the throttle feels like it has micrometer precision. I don't think I've ever had this much fun. Cornering takes so much concentration and focus that a good ride in the twisties will leave you exhausted.

    Probably the hardest thing to come to grips with is the expense of all the body armor that is really necessary. Full leathers, gauntlet gloves, hard body armor, protective boots, carbon fiber helmet... and you still have a 4:1 greater chance of death in an accident than in any car.

    Ride safe!
    Steve
    1988.5 Testarossa, black, all black
    1972 Chevron B20 FB Cosworth BDD
    2004 Suzuki DL650
    2003 Suzuki SV1000S, copper
    2005 Suzuki Hayabusa, blue/silver
     
  18. ralfabco

    ralfabco Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I was 26 and purchased my very first bike/organ donor bike. A 1990 ZX-7 The next year with minimal time I purchased a 1991 GSXR-1100. I then proceeded to lose the ZX-7 (at night) while very easily moving over to the inside shoulder of the freeway. I did not know to look down and judge the elevated shoulder some moron decided to install on the inside shoulder of the freeway. This was not a temporary elevated shoulder. It was designed that way. It was about an 1" / 1 1/2" elevated from the main lanes. Not a drop of blood. I always wear correct clothing and a good helmut. I got married and gave up riding.

    Year 2000 I could take it no more ! Like Ryan (LaFun2) I fell for the Ducati 748 Yellow mono. FbF chip, & Term c/f cans.

    I then read in a magazine how the Hayabusa (a beautiful bike) was going to be castrated (electronically) in 2001. I ran (I did not walk) to find any dealer who still had one in the crate. I found a dealer in Louisiana that had over ten in the crate. I got one from the last month of production with no restrictions and the 220mph speedometer. That speedo is good for the ego.


    Anyway 4 organ donor bikes later, no license, no motorcycle course. - I am still alive. I still have the fastest one. + all the motorcycle stories from the early 1990's. There were some good stories.
     
  19. sjb509

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    No liscense? How do you get insurance?
     
  20. Scott98

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    I used to have a '95 900SS with high compression pistons, stage two jet kit and carbon fiber pipes.

    Scott
     
  21. UroTrash

    UroTrash Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I was in Rome a few years ago, and amongst all the Vespa and Vespa-clones came 2 900SSs with their exhaust rumble reverberating off the brick street and stuccoed buildings. I'll never forget that moment. Motorcycle heaven.
     
  22. Scott98

    Scott98 F1 Rookie
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    I never saw a Ducati when I was in Rome but I did see a red 748 in Paris last year on vacation parked on the sidewalk with a cathedral in the background. Needless to say, I took a picture.

    Scott
     
  23. UroTrash

    UroTrash Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Yeah, I was surprised, the only 2 Ducks I saw in Italy, strange.
     
  24. T.O. Dino

    T.O. Dino Formula Junior

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    I have a 02 998 and would consider a new MV, they are a work of art. The problem is there is no MV dealers or distributors in the great white north. I get a woody everytime I see a picture of one.
     
  25. 2000YELLOW360

    2000YELLOW360 F1 World Champ

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    i've still got the Harris Ducati that I won the last championship on. 271# w/gas, etc. 97HP at the rear wheel. Would destroy the 4 valves up to about 100 mph, and was much quicker into and out of the corners.

    I tried the 916, when they came out, not the street version, but a semi works unit, but it wasn't much quicker than what I had, and the power delivery caused more wheel spin that I wanted to deal with. Haven't ridden a street version, but sooner or later I'll do that.

    I've got the 77 Truimph that I use for the street. Makes 70HP at the rear wheel, with modified frame, etc. Works just fine in dealing with kids on the Hondas, etc.

    Art
     

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