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  1. 360C

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    Having been involved in ordering and importing a Testarossa in 1989, I can assure you that there are NO Australian spec Testarossa. All the cars imported were done so privately and all were English spec, no Cats. Most were delivered at the Factory in Italy and imported under "Tourist" import regs that were in force at the time. Basically you had to be out of the country for at least 3mths (proof with passport) which then allowed you to import a car without complying with some of the Australian ADR's (Cats being one item). The Australian Ferrari importer had bugger all to do with the process other than putting the buyer into direct contact with the Factory representative.

    So there is no such thing as pics of an "Australian delivered" with Cats.
     
  2. ashsimmonds

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    i remember the story of your old man's TR, but perhaps you can shed light on what the deal is with redbook having *new* TR prices for '84/'85?
     
  3. 360C

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    Pure fabrication?
     
  4. ashsimmonds

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    :D i'll buy that for a dollar! just i had the same assumption that there was no such thing as an 'aussie' TR, then i read redbook.com.au and saw prices listed... i believe everything on my internets, don't you?
     
  5. 360C

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    The first Aussie delivered "TR" was the 512TR. It had CATS and the full ADR stuff. Didn't bring many in as they were VERY expensive relative to the cost of importing a Testarossa ($310k in 1989 from memory).
     
  6. carl888

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    I don't think you can just bolt cats onto a leaded testarossa (Note spelling). The federalised version IIRC ran Bosch KE jet with Lambda as opposed to just straight K Jetronic. It also had a lower compression ratio and a myriad of other small changes. So to make it run right you'd need to change the pistons, fuel metering unit, add the two control units, manifolds, engine tinware, lumbing, exhaust, rear valance, charcoal canister and so on. And that's just the cats, maybe you need EGR as well?? As you don't need to have the cats installed to register and comply the vehicle in the state of Victoria you would be well advised to register in Victoria first then transfer it to the state of your choice. You must purchase a spare parts book as that will list the differences for you. Oh, and one last thing for your compliance, you'll need, a tyre placard.

    Regards,

    Carl.
     
  7. goober

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    carl, i'm impressed, that sort of knowledge is unbeatable, good effort
     
  8. 360C

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    We all know that Carl is full of sh*t

    :)
     
  9. carl888

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  10. goober

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    where is that right hand going?

    i believe that the US mods will never let have our own way now


    i say is that photoshop?
     
  11. moretti

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    looks well dodgy :D
     
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  13. ashsimmonds

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    that pic reminds me of a documentary where there was a baby spider monkey hanging on to it's mother
     
  14. [355]

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    LOL!
     
  15. ferrarifixer

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    Close carl888, but not quite right. And I'm not just saying this to undo Goobers compliment, it's just that specific details you posted here are wrong, yet they've been stated so eloquently!

    All TRossa worldwide went from K jetronic to KE as a progression step, and it has nothing to do with "federalised" or not. KE simply means electronic pressure control, as opposed to warm up/control regs like 308QV/328/VW Golf/Audi etc have. All TRossa (both K and KE) also have charcoal cannister for fuel vapours too... And no TRossas anywhere are leaded only. All are fully unleaded capable, regardless of world market.

    Also, just to be pedantic.. the term EGR is mis applied to Ferrari... not even Aussie cars have EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation), they have Air injection though... which is just an air pump with vacuum/solenoid control to blow fresh air onto the exhaust valve outlet, which super heats up and further burns the Hydrocarbons produced.. True EGR is where exhaust gasses are actually re-ignited.
     
  16. carl888

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    Wow, really? I am sure I saw EGR in the parts manual, but I defer to your experience.

    With the K and KE Jet, are you sure the unleaded ones never were KE? The reason is that the early leaded cars were K Jet as you say, but I thought all unleaded/cat cars were KE?

    Regards,

    Carl.
     
  17. ferrarifixer

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    I'll correct myself... sorry, they dont all have charcoal cannister.

    Nope to EGR in UK or Europe. Just air injection. Haven't studied US spec though.

    THERE ARE NO LEADED TROSSA'S. ALL TROSSA can use unleaded. As can all 308 QV/328... all same, all can use EITHER, unless fitted with cats of course, when they MUST use unleaded, obviously.
     
  18. goober

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    well why does mine have a big snout for leaded fuel.............cos it came from pommy land in 1985/6. BH
     
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    Because it can use EITHER fuel. And leaded pumps had big snouts.
     
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    derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and u dont have to yell.................doofus,
     
  21. carl888

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    Answer the question! Does the cat version have EGR? Can check in my parts book over the weekend if you like......actually, did you give it back :)

    Regards,

    Carl.
     
  22. ferrarifixer

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    I've never seen or heard of a TRossa with cats (Only TR/M), so I have NFI, but I doubt it, as no cat equipped Aussie 328 has true EGR either, only Air injection.

    And, just for comparison, Aussie 328 dont have KE jet , they have K Lambda, which is different to K Jet.

    Actually... have my own now... $20 off ebay inc freight!
     
  23. carl888

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    Yes, those manuals are getting cheap now. With the air injection, what powers it, I mean, it has no air pump right, or is it like a pulse air thing?

    Regards,

    Carl.
     
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  25. carl888

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    OK, ta, but I'm still confused about the testarossa, best I look at the book I think.
     

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