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  1. velocetwo

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    Wake up Bitzman! Have you seen post 47?
     
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    #132 Ed Niles, Apr 1, 2014
    I think that was his "moglie Italiana". (As opposed to his wife in Jolly Old).
     
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    Prova Mo 171 Prova (and Mo 110) were Scuderia Serenissima plates. Pictures from end 1966/early 1967. Location? Pontecchio Marconi? Or Formigine? On the left Volpi's Rover? Francis Serenissima badged later the ATS and finally sold it to Bruce McIntosh.
     
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    PONTECCIO MARCONI,

    Can you account for these;

    sculpting of the rear fenders
    the louvered backlite
    the rectangular tailamps

    All are unique to this car??

    Thanks for all the great photos!!!

    Steve
     
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    #149 danielpithoud, Apr 14, 2014
    Daniel, from France.


    Hi Steve,

    I am identifying all the historic ATS 2500 GT and GTS produced, surviving or not, it’s a real challenge.

    Thank you very much for all information you have given, it’s a great help for me.
    You have identified existing six cars : 1001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2008.
    You know well these very rare cars, you own one (even two ATS years ago !).

    It seems admitted that the vin (serial number) for the GT are like 1nnn, and like 2nnn for the GTS. Why 2003 and not 1003 for the grey GT, shown at the french 1963 Paris “Salon de l’Automobile ” ?

    The red GTS (ex Karl Gerstl, in Austria) and the blue GTS shown at Autoworld in Brussels in 2004 are without doubt replicas by Giordanengo. How many ATS made by Giordanengo, knowing he bought about 15 engines and parts ?

    In Italy at a Torino motor fair around 1995, a bare GTS chassis with body was shown, restoration was on (or replica ?), chassis unknown. Maybe the Karl Gerstl GTS.

    Nobody talks about two GT (one “white” and the other green) which probably don’t exist anymore : destroyed or modified to GTS ?

    A "white" (really vanilla color) 1963 ATS 25OO GT was exposed at the Paris (France) “Salon de l’automobile” on October 1964. I saw that car at this time. Does this car survive ? What owners ? What vin ? There is a picture of this car on the assembly line in the factory (see book on Bizzarini cars, edited by Nada, Italy). Another picture on the assembly line in the factory show this car behind a dark painted GT (the green GT ?)

    A superb green ATS 2500 GT was on front cover of french magazine L'Automobile in august 1964. Does this other car survive, and what owners ? This car was imported in France in 1964 by “Etablissements Jean-Marie Barbier”, a garage near Paris which exist no more. According to L’Automobile on august 1964, it was the first car sold (in France ?). Another source said the first car was sold to an Italian industrialist (this same car or another ?).

    I had chance in 1972 to see unrestored 2003 (the grey ATS 2500 GT) of the 1963 Paris Salon de l’Automobile) in the Maserati garage in Saint-Cloud, near Paris. This car car stayed here for a long time, about twenty years, and was finally sold by Thepenier, the owner and Maserati importer for France. This car was sold in USA with a Ferrari 250 GTO, an ex Aga-Khan Maserati 5000 GT with Frua body (maybe with the tipo 151/1 engine in it), a Bizzarini Strada and a Bizzarini Europa !

    The GTS which crashed at Reims in 1964 has been reconstructed as a spyder (factory picture). Maybe, this spider was bought by Scotti. With a low roof and other modifications of the body, and engines with displacements of 2000cc and 3 liter, it ran several minor races without success. What about the ATS-Scotti ?

    A rare color picture taken in 1965 at Volpi (or ATS) factory, show no less than five ATS 2500. The 3 cars in front are 1001, 2004 and probably 2008. In the background, there are 2 cars : on the left, a dark blue GT with cream color seats, accidented in front, and on the right a GTS (maybe medium grey) with a repaired and unpainted body. What chassis number for this two cars ?

    For 1001, the many changes of color are difficult to follow. First it was blue with cream seats, but a later picture before the factory show the same (?) car with a red body. In California in 1966 (owner Ed Niles), the body was light grey with red seats. Now, it has a red body with cream seats. And this GT has a GTS engine with four dual carbs.

    I hope somebody to bring information about the many mysteries of ATS story.
     
  25. lgs

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    #150 lgs, Apr 14, 2014
    Thank you so much for posting all this interesting, unknown and wonder full pictures and information.

    #148: Which on of the badges was on the Lola? How did you got it?

    How should Lola GT #LGT1 be called after Francis' modification? Serenissima Lola GT Mk.6 "AF"? Serenissima badged, engined and modified with gull wing doors from "AF"?
     
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