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Are parking sensors OR backup cameras essential for purchasing a used 458?

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  1. socalferrari

    socalferrari Rookie

    Feb 28, 2017
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    So i’m very close to pulling the trigger on a used 458 Italia with a little under 2000 miles. It has everything I want. It has carbon fiberRacing seats, carbon fiber tunnel, carbon fiber dash, carbon fiber steering wheel and gear shifters.

    However the big feature it’s missing is both front and rear parking sensors and a back up camera. I have obviously seen several 458s that have both features. I would definitely make a concession if the car had at least one feature, either the parking sensors or the back up camera. However this model does not have either one.

    My question is, will the lack of either parking sensor or back up camera hurt my resale value? Should I back out of this deal because it does not contain either feature? Would any of you NOT buy a used low mileage 458 if it did not have both, one, or neither feature? My question is, will the lack of either parking sensor or back up camera hurt my resale value? Should I back out of this deal because it does not contain either feature? Would any of you not buy a used low mileage 458 if it did not have both, one, or neither feature?

    The vehicle has the exact interior trim I want. It has the exact exterior color I want, it just does not have those features as mentioned above.

    Thanks for your advice.
     
  2. boobernackle

    boobernackle Formula Junior

    May 28, 2016
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    If you're asking this on a public forum, I would guess you've made your mind to walk away, but looking forward any reason to stay.

    Having a backup camera is a must, 488 had a front camera as well, but that's a waste. The rear is so much harder to see than the front for obvious reasons. Sensors can be done without but at the very least it should've come with one of the two.

    Plenty of 458s to be had, unless there's a certain price you're going for and only way to meet it is to get a car without these basic features.
     
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  3. Need4Spd

    Need4Spd F1 Veteran

    Feb 24, 2007
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    Quite a few cars did not come with a backup camera. At least it seemed that way when I was looking. For me it was a must have feature, because it’s next to impossible to see behind without it, and even then the screen is so small you have to be careful. It’s very expensive to add the OEM system to a car that doesn’t have it, because the bumper cover is different. So I kept looking until I found the car I wanted. Given that so many cars don’t have it, it seems unlikely it will affect resale, though.


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  4. 'Trust'

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    I’m not sure if your actual question has been answered. If I read it correctly you asked if it will hurt resale, you didn’t seem to ask if it’s better to have it for parking and maneuvers.

    To answer your question, no, it won’t. At least not more than it already has, which is negligible and you’re not the guy who bought it new paying for that “loss”. You’d likely find someone like yourself who, if picking between equally optioned cars sans those options, would go for the car with it. However, if you’ve found the car that fits your specs less that, I wouldn’t let it it deter me. My Speciale has neither, and I don’t care for them with how they look.
     
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  5. Viperjoe

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    Sensors yes, camera no!
     
  6. Andial

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  7. Melvok

    Melvok F1 World Champ
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    OP's Q: Are parking sensors OR backup cameras essential for purchasing a used 458?

    NO ! :)

    Sensors or cam are nice to have but NO showstopper imo.
     
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  8. Ey55doc

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    Mar 11, 2018
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    Nice to have at least the sensors - not essential- and plenty of cars out there without these so resale should not be a
    Problem especially on low mileage !
     
  9. JimPVB

    JimPVB Formula Junior

    Apr 24, 2016
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    All of these options are "optional" for a reason. Some of us want them, some don't think the initial cost is worth the benefit. Your question is about resale, so the answer is easy. "Yes," it might hurt resale with those that want those options, and "No," it will not hurt resale with those that don't care. I put them in my 488 Spider ONLY because I have very minor children and regularly back out of my garage, so for me it is a safety option. I'm not concerned about hitting anything else, I have two good eyes, I can see around my car as I enter it, and I consider myself a good judge of distance, so without my kids involved in the decision I wouldn't have installed those options. That said, I purchased my first 458 used, and without sensors and cameras. I ordered my 488 with them installed, so your resale might still be attractive to someone like me, that can go either way (with cars....).


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  10. wrs

    wrs F1 World Champ
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    I back into a lot of spaces and without one of the two I would have a hard time judging where the car is even with the top down. It's risky. Even parking in my garage I listen to the sensors. I wasn't going to buy a car without front and rear sensors and the backup camera, that was one of the first things on my list.

    For this "used" buyer, the answer is I wouldn't look at a car without both sensors and backup camera.
     
  11. Albert-LP

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    vintage Ferrari had none of them and the resale value is not bad… ;)

    ciao
     
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  12. Nsd991

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    Jul 19, 2012
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    I have both options. The sensors are sensitive they are almost distracting so probably better for me not to have them. When parking my car on my lift the go off constantly and freak me out. I don’t know if there is an adjustment for them.
    The back up camera is good for a picture only, the guiding lines do not curve with rotation of the car and not too helpful. I’d be more that comfortable getting a car without these options.
     
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  13. HMB-Dino

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    If you're already asking about resale value before you even buy the car, it sounds like you plan to flip the car or hold it for just a short period of time. As others have pointed out, why not buy or not buy based on the utility of those features and how they might improve your ownership experience?
     
  14. bobbyd

    bobbyd Formula Junior

    Nov 17, 2003
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    Never had any of these options on any of my cars, including current Speciale.

    Always sold my cars easily for top of market value at the time, including my 458 coupe 4 years ago.

    IMO the race seats are more important than most of the other options combined.

    Good luck!
     
  15. dustman

    dustman F1 World Champ
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    Exactly.
    You don’t need them.
    Of the three 458 varieties I’ve owned only the spider has sensors and cam and it’s not needed. The sensors are more annoying than good. And the camera is near useless. IMO.
    I wouldn’t let it hold you up from an otherwise perfectly specd car.
     
  16. JimPVB

    JimPVB Formula Junior

    Apr 24, 2016
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    Frankly, I find the camera to be the worst camera on any of my cars. The MB and Lexus camera systems put the 488 system to shame, and I only glance at it to look for kids, otherwise to me it's almost useless when it comes to considering fixed obstacles. Probably shouldn't have expected more considering the 488's small screens, and I suppose they're better than nothing for those that actually need them when backing up.

    Jim
     
  17. obbob

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    A lot of enthusiasts belittle parking aids as a sign of a lack of driving ability. Personally, I found a backup camera to be one of the most helpful tools for any reverse parking.

    For me, a backup camera is near mandatory for any modern car. Sensors are helpful but not nearly as much as a camera imo.
     
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  18. MalibuGuy

    MalibuGuy F1 Veteran

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    I gave this issue a lot of thought when I specced my 458 spider.
    I didn’t think a front camera or sensors were necessary because the hood is pretty short and low. Also the front bumper height is high enough to clear most parking stones, so I haven’t had any issues with pranging the front.

    I decided to go with rear parking sensors, and they are pretty useful. I’m not sure if the camera is better than the sensors but I haven’t regretted no getting a rear camera
     
  19. kiryu

    kiryu Formula Junior

    Mar 28, 2016
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    i only drive my car in the canyons and back roads, so no the sensors and backup cam are not that important. I imagine it's a must if I like to drive it to show off in the cities and do parallel parking etc.The options you mentioned are not super rare, so unless this sub 2000 mile car is a great deal price wise, I would skip it. Dont think the resale is a big problem, as it's always depending on the selling price. If the car is 10k-20k under comp I would still get it since it has every other option you want on it. However, if you are paying a premium for the low miles, then yes your resale will hurt since you are more likely to pay high and sell low with missing options. If you intend to keep it for a while however, you can adjust your driving habit (where you park, where you take the car etc.) to make up for the missing options, as resale is less of an issue since all 458 will continue to depreciate regardless of whatever options you have
     
  20. gilly6993

    gilly6993 F1 Rookie

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    I had a back up camera but no sensors.....was perfectly fine with it and never missed the sensors.....
     
  21. Labman

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    Agreed. Sensors will let you know if you are getting close to something. I couldn't care less if a 458 I was considering had a backup camera or not.
     
  22. obbob

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    Also worth noting that a rear view camera can be added aftermarket (it’ll still use the TFT screen and engage when you put it in reverse).
     
  23. Cigarzman

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    I’m in the camp of the rear camera being a must. Trying to see behind these rigs is darn near impossible. That being said , I ordered my new car with rear camera and sensors. Best , Kirk.
     
  24. Nel1

    Nel1 Karting

    Jul 11, 2012
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    Neither is essential for me. Other options such as racing seats and interior trim are more important.
    I would have no concerns buying a 458 without them, especially if not a daily driver.


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  25. aznflightfreak23

    Apr 16, 2012
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    Sensors are a plus but I believe rear camera is a must.
     
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